Trying to pick a DPS

[Justsomeguy]

Ello all,

So...I'm mainly a tank player, but every now and then I get the urge to DPS and I'm trying to pick who to focus on.

Problem is...I have no clue which one to focus on.

I do have a few options I'll go over though.

Summoner

I like ACN, I love SCH, problem is...I don't want to skimp my SCH's healing ability for SMN damage. Besides, with the way things work I have more than enough time/resources to DPS on SCH so despite my love for the aesthetics of the class, there are too many opposing points.

Machinist

I was pretty hyped for it, I do really enjoy it (despite the fact that I haven't got to play it too much) but from what I've seen when I get into parties with them, their damage isn't stellar. I didn't expect it to be immense, but I was a little bit disappointed on that front. Aside from that I do enjoy their look and the idea behind the job.

Monk

This one...Idunno, I tried PGL back in 1.0 and never really gave it much of a chance in ARR. How is their damage these days? Difficulty with position/rotation isn't really an issue for me if it all pays off.

Black Mage

These guys, I've seen their damage, their aoe, their flashy spells. How -are- they though? Any opinions from any BLMS? I've heard the hubub about Enochian but I don't quite get the issues from just looking at the ability itself.

Ninja

I'll bite, I know next to nothing about Ninja, I'm interested in them mainly because they look nice, so I'd love to hear opinions on them and their damage/usefulness.

So yeah...sorry for being vague and mostly unhelpful with this post, I'm just fishing for opinions before I decide which one to try first. As a general question though, which one of these can deal "optimal damage" as often as possible? Even if they can, is it any good?

Thanks a ton for taking the time to reply, the help is much appreciated.

[Geardagas]

Monk is up there in damage right behind dragoon, which you didn't mention for some reason. Drg is op right now, and for that reason there are 75 million of them.

My blm isn't quite there yet, but I can tell you that everyone complains about wanderers minuet like they complain about enochian, and WM is great, so I don't think forum complainers should be a good measure of how blm plays out.

I'm confused about how you said that smn gimps your scholar. I dont have it leveled so i dont really know, but can't you just cleric stance?

[Justsomeguy]

Monk is up there in damage right behind dragoon, which you didn't mention for some reason. Drg is op right now, and for that reason there are 75 million of them.

My blm isn't quite there yet, but I can tell you that everyone complains about wanderers minuet like they complain about enochian, and WM is great, so I don't think forum complainers should be a good measure of how blm plays out.

I'm confused about how you said that smn gimps your scholar. I dont have it leveled so i dont really know, but can't you just cleric stance?

Drg doesn't really interest me all that much, I've seen them (a lot) and nothing really stuck out when I was playing my Lancer.

As for Smn and Sch, I used my attribute points for mind for my Sch. So, blah blah, better heals, stronger DoTs as Sch etc thanks to the Mind swap from ceric stance.

It comes down to, I care about my Sch more than Smn, so I know my Smn would just be a tad more watered down because of that in the end.

[Ferrasper]

The reason for enochian complaints is because you need a tight watch on AF3/enochian timers. If you can't get blizzard 4 off in time due to mechanics, enochian falls off along with a big chunk of your damage. If you fail to keep AF3 up, you loose access to Fire 4 which means a hard cast of fire 3 eating away more of enochian time.

[Snowaeth]

Do you plan to raid on the dps?
If so I'd pick up Ninja right now. DRG+NIN are currently the most sought after melee combo.
Only possible downside to Ninja is Mudra lag, if you can live with the knowledge that you won't do the same thing as the 10ms people or just have very little lag yourself then NIN is a solid pick.
It comes with a pretty standard 2dot and a 1, 2/6, 3/4/5 combo that shouldn't be foreign for a warrior player.
Comes with some cute gimmicks like Shukuchi(jump to spot), DoL stealth for the lols and aggro up/down skills for targets, self stoneskin on long cd, reduced fall damage and increased movement speed.
It also flips when weapons are unsheathed and you jump.
It comes with some solid party utility in the form of Goad for strong 1 target tp regen, and Trick attack for high damage and party wide dps increase and slashing debuff for when you have no warrior or for your pld/drk in split boss fights like A1S.
And ofcourse the signature move the Mudra's which allow you to adapt to a lot of situations by doing a combination of signs, basically the thing that separates NIN from being just a warrior that is using daggers.

So basically if you like WAR as a dps pick NIN.
If you don't want a dps that is kinda like WAR pick something else.

[WingsOfAzrael]

@ the summoner part, the hymn things from the grand companies that cost like 250 seals reset all your stats

[Justsomeguy]

Ninja Info

Thanks! I'll definitely look more into Ninja now. As for raiding, that I do not know. I'm currently capping 2 tanks/2 healers/1 dps, I'll focus raiding on whatever static/group I can find needs me as, so its all up in the air for now.

@ the summoner part, the hymn things from the grand companies that cost like 250 seals reset all your stats

Oh, I could have sworn they cost much...much more, but I haven't checked on those since 2.0 so...Thank you for that bit of info! Gives me more to think about.

As for the Blm things, makes sense, sounds like a challenge too.

[fm_fenrir]

LNC is probably the least interesting base class early on, so please don't base your opinion of LNC/DRG on that. Once you hit the 40s with DRG, your enjoyment will improve immensely. Also, as a tank player, you'll probably appreciate DRG's huge HP pool and high defense (compared to the other dps).

[Inosaska]

Machinist is a solid class and they look good. I'm playing Ninja right now but with how little time I get to play now its hard to level it up because it takes forever to get dungeons as any type of DPS kind of the reason I'm starting to lean on going back to finish leveling off my DRK. I'm trying my best to stay on my DPS class though.

[Sawamura]

If you are bad with remember mechanic and not very good with see whats going on. but good with finger muslce memory.
Mnk:
Will take a bit long to get use to do it with position flank and Rear for max dps and keep up GL from mechanic. though once you get use to it you will love you dps.

Nin:
Less position requirement and a bit easy to keep dps during a bit less button.
A bit easy to keep huton then GL from mnk.
mudra lag is no joke though.

If you are really good with remember mechanic and pen n note what mistake group made.

Blm:
Has to read 2-3 step ahead of fight and how much time you has before movement mechanic incoming. unlike smn with limit AoE cause Aether stack. Blm has No limit AoE and mp. Also a bit easy to be control tower to see whats going on.

mch:
Pretty crazy dps with opening.
if you dont like position requirement and lot easy be control tower and supporter.