Adding Legacy Tattoo to Mog Station

[Sakuraluna]

As a non-legacy, I don't agree with this at all, because one of the things I like about this game is how immersive and dynamic the lore is because of those players that were actually there to experience past events that took place before the story even began, so to speak. To me, that's something special that this game has that no other mmo on the market can claim rights to, and is a symbol of how close XIV came to total failure and how well it's bounced back since. That being said, the legacy tattoo has a link to the lore that, if tossed up on the cash shop, would cheapen both the symbol and lore behind it as well as being a slap in the face to players that experienced 1.0. I hope SE never considers selling it.

I wouldn't mind having a body tattoo option in character creation/aesthetician, however. As long as there's nothing similar to that particular tattoo included in the options, I think it would be a great idea and would allow us a little bit more originality with our characters' looks, especially if we could edit the color of the tattoos and/or even layer them. More customization options is always a good thing.

One thing that gets to me about threads like this though, is that I don't think anyone should reserve the right to tell other people that they "don't deserve" something, regardless what that something is. It's rude and condescending and reeks of special snowflakeism. If that player knew about 1.0 and made a conscious decision to not play, then yeah, maybe they don't deserve it, but only because they had the opportunity and didn't make the effort. But how does anyone presume to know that a player who wasn't able to play during that time for whatever reason, or didn't even know the game existed, wouldn't have made the effort to be involved if given the chance? No, that person doesn't not deserve it, they simply missed out.
(This goes for any exclusive item, not just legacy things. And no, I don't believe that they should always be given the item or a chance to get the item just because it's unfair they missed out, I think that with some things if you miss out you just miss out and that should be end of story. I just don't equate someone missing out on an opportunity due to things beyond their control to them automatically not deserving the rewards. Not deserving implies that they didn't and wouldn't even try if they had the chance.)

[Seig345]

The only thing you paid for was a cheaper lifetime subscription and your name in credits most people skip(and to support a game you had high hopes for). Anything else anyone who played 1.0 could have gotten without paying a dime. Even if you played 1.0 and you decided to make a new character you don't get to keep the tattoo. "Legacy tattoo" is just a name. It has nothing to do with Legacy status.

You left out the Legacy chocobo, which is tied to legacy membership along with the subscription and the option to put your name in the credits. But you're correct about the tattoo only requiring that the character existed before 2.0.

Sort of interesting, given that the opening cutscene implies that characters sent forward in time (who would have that tattoo) also had a chocobo with that same mark on their beak, while that isn't actually the case in the game itself. (Non legacy members on their 1.0 characters not having the legacy chocobo/chocobo with the tattoo on its beak)

[Teppie]

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That's an incredibly good point, I didn't think of it that way.

[Theonekitten]

Well it just seems a bit weird for things to be exclusive, there's no reason to bar content from customers who actively want it. It's not like it's hidden behind some big grind or hard boss, it's just simply 100% inaccessible, and that can be sort of demoralizing to new players knowing from the word go they can't possibly achieve everything.

Then they should've stuck it out in 1.0 like those of us that did and earned the legacy tattoo. It's called 'Legacy Tattoo' for a reason. The problem with alot of gamers today is they want everything for nothing. The all about me and i want it now generation. Smh...

[Cynric]

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Not to demean it or anything but it's hard to count a chocobo you can't even use as a companion ,dye, or even race, as a big special reward. =/
My point is mainly that, this isn't something special that anyone paid for. You just kinda got it for being there. It's silly to act like it was a reward from the legacy campaign when it wasn't, I always thought the name would be confusing down the line.

Even the poster above me seems to think it was something that was earned through paying for the legacy campaign.

[KonaMochi]

I think it would be cool if SE was to make somesort of body/back tattoo for either ingame or even in the cash shop. The scion's tattoo, a doman koi tattoo, tattoos of the grand companies- the possibilities are endless!

However, I can understand why legacy characters wouldnt want their mark to be sold on the cash shop. It's a status symbol- showing that they were the brave few who survived the terrors of the 1.0 series- the original WoL who stuck with SE through their moments of darkness (literally- 1.0 was a horrible time for SE, that literally put the company on hold)...

TL;DR
More tattoos would be epic, but let legacy tattoos stay exclusive. This is coming from a regular player :P

[DreameR7g]

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You'd be correct if XIV 1.0 was "invite-only" or some such. However, XIV 1.0 was on sale for *EVERYONE* to buy at that time. Not knowing about it or if you couldn't buy it, you missed out on 1.0. In this context, they missed out. "Missed out" in this case is an objective statement, a fact.

"Deserve" is a subjective statement. Thus, saying "I believe those who missed out on 1.0 don't deserve the legacy tattoo." is an opinion. We all are allowed to voice our opinions, aren't we? Because there is two sides to this debate. I'm merely expressing what I (and possibly other 1.0 veterans) would feel if something that was deemed 'exclusive' became non-exclusive. Something that has value to us suddenly was given to other people who weren't there, that in our minds didn't earn it.

I'm sorry if saying "You don't deserve this." or any other such statement offends you. However, because it is in a subjective context, we're allowed to say it.

[TouchandFeel]

I personally think the legacy rewards should be rewards solely for the legacy players, which I am not one of.

However other tattoo options becoming available, prefereably in-game, for everyone would be awesome.

[Onikimaru]

Absolutely not. I'm not a legacy player but i do not want it, it would be a kick in the nuts to the people that stayed with the game throughout it's 1.0 days.

[Seig345]

Not to demean it or anything but it's hard to count a chocobo you can't even use as a companion ,dye, or even race, as a big special reward. =/
My point is mainly that, this isn't something special that anyone paid for. You just kinda got it for being there. It's silly to act like it was a reward from the legacy campaign when it wasn't, I always thought the name would be confusing down the line.

Even the poster above me seems to think it was something that was earned through paying for the legacy campaign.

Well I was just speaking out of technicality more than anything. Granted, I'd say the chocobo is worth a little more than the name in the credits, since you can't go running around with the latter in front of everyone like you can with the former. X)

You're right though, people tend to get the Legacy Campaign rewards mixed up with some of the other one-time only items. The original Goobbue mount is the same way; it's entirely possible for there to be some Legacy Campaign members who don't have the original Goobbue mount, while many non-Legacy Campaign members do, and like the tattoo, a new character won't have it.

To be honest though, the tattoo was technically paid for; unless your copy of the game was a gift, you had to at least buy a copy of the game itself. Only the subscription itself was made free until 2012. If nothing else, the tattoo was the all-inclusive badge of thanks/apology to anyone who'd ever gotten as far as to buy the game and create a character on Final Fantasy XIV prior to its relaunch.

(whoopsie-doodle, quoted the wrong person, edited to correct!)