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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Then what are sale runs? Just because Alex Savage isn't sellable right this moment doesn't mean groups won't be doing it in the near future. A1 and A2 will for sure be sellable once groups gear up. And I don't know about you, but finding anyone to sell favor items is like pulling teeth.
    Lel... I think it will be around ~15-25 Millionen Gil for one A1S-kill, giving you (maybe) 1 drop / 1 token, regarding T13 was still >10 Millionen with +20% Echo back in 2.x

    With that ammount of gil you can get all crafter/gatherer to 60 and get a bunch of favor items in few weeks (when most gatherer have 2xMH-tool, the favor-fix is applied and ppl start selling more).

    Right now you find few ppl selling favor items, but no one selling A-S. In a few weeks you see A1S for >20 Millionen Gil and lower favor mat prices.

    At least you can make big gil with a gatherer now... better than in 2.x where the highest, timegated ***-lumber in HQ would sell for idk.. 2-3k gil.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 08-17-2015 at 04:42 PM.

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    Kuwaitum's Avatar
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    Ivory Spirit
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I want to be frank and -might be- my post will be deleted but I want to say it. I am an almost daily player of FFXIV since release date, as a crafter I gave up competing with other crafters mainly the fresh starters. I craft/gather for hours weekly for months to hit Lv.50, just to see myself be out beaten by a One-week-player-old-gil-buyers that bought thierselves to a Lv.50 in mere days and only what stops them from Insta-4-Stars in all crafts are the Leve(s) balance which they devour since everything else is bought from the Market Board using gil.

    At that time, I knew as in real life there are the Lucky, the Theif, and the Cheater. I stopped competing and only focused to have fun. I craft for fun and mostly to help new players. I am happy about it, I put the concern about being tiptop behind me. I admit that competing with people that: (1. Have time, or 2. Buy thier way to super crafter, or 3. Cheat/bot their way) is just a waste of time, especially when you are certain and sure that the content will be nerfed down and never the opposite.

    *note: I am not generalizing to all craters/gatherers, but everyone knows many are like that.
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    Shadowsun's Avatar
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    Iselia Shadowsun
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 50
    I wouldn't count lower difficulties as "raid" content.
    The highest difficulty of each is definitely raid content.

    The other difficulties are just too easy and simple to be counted.
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsun View Post
    I wouldn't count lower difficulties as "raid" content.
    The highest difficulty of each is definitely raid content.

    The other difficulties are just too easy and simple to be counted.
    Difficulty does not matter.

    Just because they were easy, that does not exclude LotA, ST, or WoD from being classified as "raid".
    Just because it is hard (and lets face it, it is the hardest under 50 fight in the game) Garuda NM is not considered a "raid".

    Easy raids are still raids. Hard group content can be harder than the easier raids, but it is still group content, not raid content.
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    Beck Eldrin
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    I don't think you're the grand master of MMOs who gets to determine what the word "Raid" is ultimately defined as. In FFXIV raids are clearly defined in the duty finder menu so it's not really up for interpretation. It's silly to argue semantics in what the game clearly defines already.
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrustie View Post
    I don't think you're the grand master of MMOs who gets to determine what the word "Raid" is ultimately defined as. In FFXIV raids are clearly defined in the duty finder menu so it's not really up for interpretation. It's silly to argue semantics in what the game clearly defines already.
    I'm not. Neither is SE, who is arbitrarily cherry picking what they are calling a raid and what they are not.

    I'm simply using the accepted definition, not SE's random-choice-but-lack-of-definition.

    That said, I think this little subtopic has gotten rather astray from the thread's subject.
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    Xaenyth Godslaer
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    Dark Knight Lv 55
    Did all you DoH and DoL levels get reset to 1? That would be a reset...

    HW content is supposed to be *after* ARR content so why would having all 50 crafts but you at the end of HW???

    That's like saying 'OMG I was max level and now max level is 60 so I got reset' it's frankly not true. There's simply more content added that you can play now and how is that a bad thing? If you don't enjoy it nobody is forcing you to do HW content.

    I just started 2 weeks ago so all my crafts are like level 20 and I won't hit HW content for months. I don't care though because by the time I do there will be more content to go through and it'll take me a long time to catch up. TBH when you like a game you don't want it to end because then there is little to do. Being on the top in real life is sweet but being on the top in a video game is almost always not what it's cracked up to be.
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    Tanth Alas
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    Louisoix
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    Carpenter Lv 70
    welcome to mmo's
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaS View Post
    they've taken all that mattered in FFXIV ARR and RESET it.

    You mean like every MMO has done to raiders since WoW?

    You mean like XIV did to raiders THREE times since release?

    Really tell me how hard you have it as a crafter......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Oh this must be your first MMO, welcome!. Please grab the stick to your left and a staff member will be over to attach the carrot shortly.
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