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  1. #111
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze View Post
    1) If the tank is out of CS I might cast before everyone else is out as they tend to run off as soon as circle drops.
    This but also because at that point it's really only important to get those on the tank. So if people don't wait at the start, and I almost prefer they don't for that reason, at least the tank is covered.
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  2. #112
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    Serret's Avatar
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    Mish'ka N'hyaw
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
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    I only read the first few posts and I'll give a few justifications being a healer myself.

    1. Mana will regenerate fast enough before the next battle, and in 4m there's not all that many mana management issues.
    As for casting stoneskin, stoneskin 2 has a long cast time, sometimes we attempt to pre-cast it b4 the cutscene ends. If our precast prediction is wrong, it will still save us time, as we'll only have to cast 1 stoneskin (which has a lower cast time) after the cutscene is done.
    See it this way, while the cutscene is going on, you're buffing everyone else, and when it's done you only have to do a short cast to buff the last person.
    As for protect, no real reason to cast it prior to the cutscene being over, force of habit i guess?

    2. I know this isn't exactly a logical answer but, because we can. In 4m we don't have to be on top of our game we can lazy out a bit.
    Though I also have a very good reason to cast a medica 2 when for ex only the tank is getting hit: regen+medica2+asylum=300 potency regen on the tank total which basically means i don't have to heal for the rest of the fight usually.
    I can simply jump in and DPS at this point. So no, it's not dumb to cast medica 2 when only a single person is taking damage. It depends on what you want to do.

    3. It really depends on the stage of the fight. It's not as linear as you may think. My priority is usually Tank > Healer > Summoner > Bard\Machinist > everyone else
    But again it depends on what you need at that time, if I am comfortable solohealing the fight I may ressurect a DPS instead to rush it and ress the other healer later. Alternatively if there's a summoner on the party I could for example ress one person and the summoner another.
    As a WHM i avoid casting resses on people so long as I have a summoner on the party because the impact on their mana is not as critical as it is on mine.


    And for all those 3 questions, sometimes we just want to relax, sometimes we don't really care so long as nobody dies and we do enough DPS it doesn't really matter if we're playing our class optimally or not. 4m content is hardly challenging...
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    Last edited by Serret; 09-17-2015 at 07:54 AM.

  3. 09-17-2015 07:44 AM

  4. #113
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    Moonfox's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Yue Tenko
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    The thing is you´ll always have people in your party that either dont have the same healing style as you or are simply bored, still trying to work things out or downright bad. Only thing you can really do is either try to help them (if you think you´re better) and other than that just play to the best of your own abilities.

    I dont even get why you´re upset that somebody casts stoneskin before the cutscene is done - let them just do what they want it´s their mp not yours (usually regenerates before the fight starts anyway). As for not raising - you shouldn´t have been dead in the first place. But yes sometimes ppl dont have swiftcast ready - sometimes they rely on the summoners to raise (less mp probs and probably focused on solohealing) or simply they think it´s a waste of mp to raise if that particular player has died repeatedly to mechanics. It´s not out of some sadistic hate towards fellow healers.

    So just focus on yourself and try to help the newbs out.
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  5. #114
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    deos's Avatar
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    Koromo Amae
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Anova View Post
    I don't think they mean any insult by it though. For the first 3 dungeons, most healers will only have 1 cross-class skill (unless the healer is cnj, at which point they don't have stoneskin, and I personally think cleric stance and swiftcast are the more important cross-classes). I think it's just them being nice. Avatars are not very good at expressing emotions, so it's actually hard to know they're being condescending unless they /smirk... every time they do it... that might be a funny macro.
    im alway happy when im a low instance on SCH and the PLD gets us protect, but... why does he cast it while there are still ppl in video/port???
    its not about PLD casting protect, its about PLD casting protect before it can hit everybody in the pty. if it hits everyone, fine, less to do for me, but this is rarely the case so i have to recast it once all are ready anyway
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  6. #115
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    As soon as i hit 52 I'd open with regen medica 2, bubble, top off tank, go to f'ing town with holy spam
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