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  1. #101
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    Why does him recasting protect annoy you?For alot of whms casting SS and protect is just a habbit, especially if you played whm pre HW were whm protect was the strongest and youd reapply it anyway.
    The med 2 tho, yea. Bad
    No specific reason. It just does, and based on the responses in this thread, I'm not the only one.
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  2. #102
    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No specific reason. It just does, and based on the responses in this thread, I'm not the only one.
    just a silly thing to be annoyed over imo
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  3. #103
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    Koromo Amae
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    recently im seeing more and more PLD using protect before everybody is out of video at the beginning of a duty
    i want to cry every time...
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by deos View Post
    recently im seeing more and more PLD using protect before everybody is out of video at the beginning of a duty
    i want to cry every time...
    Let them. If you're lucky, everyone else will load in during the casting delay and save some time.

    Worst case scenario, it has to be cast again, but no one has lost any time or resources. I especially prefer that WHMs do it this way with Stoneskin II rather than blowing the Swiftcast that would be more useful in their DPS opener or AoE rotation.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Let them. If you're lucky, everyone else will load in during the casting delay and save some time.
    true, but it alway feels like the PLD whats to tell me "why dont you buff healer??" by doint this -.-
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by deos View Post
    true, but it alway feels like the PLD whats to tell me "why dont you buff healer??" by doint this -.-
    I hear ya, and I feel the same way on occasion, but in all likelihood the PLD is casting because they have nothing else to do and want to pretend to be useful. If they want to hit buttons, more power to them.

    The only time I get truly irritated is when PLDs stop attacking to cast Clemency or Stoneskin for no obvious reason.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    I hear ya, and I feel the same way on occasion, but in all likelihood the PLD is casting because they have nothing else to do and want to pretend to be useful. If they want to hit buttons, more power to them.
    well, if you put it this way...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    The only time I get truly irritated is when PLDs stop attacking to cast Clemency or Stoneskin for no obvious reason.
    omg yes
    recently had a PLD in roulette low that casted cures and stoneskins whenever he dropped below 90%
    i still dont know how i endured the run without going crazy (oh wait...)
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by deos View Post
    true, but it alway feels like the PLD whats to tell me "why dont you buff healer??" by doint this -.-
    Been noticing this lately, also - moreso in low level dungeons (roulettes, etc). It does come off as condescending or insulting in an odd way... I'd barely loaded in and the paladin was halfway through protect. As though it were a quiet "Ugh this healer sucks already, they're not even casting Protect on the party omg ugh" (....yeah because either I or the rest haven't even loaded in yet -_- *Golf swings them in the shins with cane*). Like people breathing down your neck before you can even get to anything.
    Kind of "no big deal", but annoying. /shrug
    It just really feels a bit like the DPS that pull before the tank or the ACN that's playing healer for no reason.
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  9. #109
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    1.) Sometimes people run off out of protect /stone skin range as soon as they can. So prepping some buffs early helps curve the "come back I'm casting buffs still!"
    2.) Sometimes throwing out medica2 early to get hots up can be useful. If you have the mana to spend you can prehot everyone with medica2 and then go into medica for bursty aoe healing. Casting medica 2 to get hots on everyone is nice in some fights where everyone is not clumped up and tends to go all over the room when raid damage can still happen. Like A3, when the slime phase begins, throwing out medica 2 at the end of the transistion is actually a smart move. Layering hots is an actual thing in this game too so you can technically get a single target increase to tank heals by having Regen and Medica II on a target while spamming cure. Its not a common situation but having an extra hot on a tank sometimes helps you breathe a little. Whether you can do that or not depends on mana.
    3.) Depends on Swift Cast for me personally. Solo healing can be scary sometimes and if swift cast is down, you have to make the choice of hard cast Res or solo heal until Swiftcast is back and you can't always afford a hard cast of res.
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    Last edited by Zolvolt; 09-16-2015 at 07:23 AM.

  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    Been noticing this lately, also - moreso in low level dungeons (roulettes, etc).
    I don't think they mean any insult by it though. For the first 3 dungeons, most healers will only have 1 cross-class skill (unless the healer is cnj, at which point they don't have stoneskin, and I personally think cleric stance and swiftcast are the more important cross-classes). I think it's just them being nice. Avatars are not very good at expressing emotions, so it's actually hard to know they're being condescending unless they /smirk... every time they do it... that might be a funny macro.

    Also, since SE set protect and SS to be the same regardless of class, there's no reason why plds can't cast it. They don't have too many abilities from CNJ and MRD that are actually useful for them. Also, tanks casting SS between pulls or tank buster attacks saves the healer mp and time, especially if they're healing the rest of the party up. Just remember it's another mitigation tool for the PLD, so they're not trying to steal your gimmick (as its actually their gimmick too).
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    Last edited by Anova; 09-16-2015 at 07:57 AM.

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