Job Soulstones Creation?

[EdwinLi]

Ever wonder how Soulstones are created in FF14 world?

Every single Job so far has only passed down a Soulstone to the WoL that originally belong to someone else so the WoL is always learning a new ability that is already in the Soulstone except for one Job being Machinist.

In MCH Job storyline the MCH Soulstone is newly created so all our Job Soulstone abilities are obtained from our MCH companions in the MCH storyline and then saved into the Soulstone for the person who will obtain the WoL MCH Soulstone after he or she is gone. This is due to how Machinist Job is the youngest and newest combat Job in Eorzea so they don't have Soulstones with Job Skills saved into their Job Soulstone yet.

I can only guess the Soulstones require a special kind of Aether Crystal to make but that is only a guess.

What do you all think on how Job Soulstones are made?

[Sylentmana]

Well, I know Summoner Soulstones were made by the Allag and the Scholar Soulstone was made by the Nymian Scholars. I imagine that all Soulstones are made by the nations/practitioners of the job using some sort of Aetheric process.

[Terrini]

The Paladin storyline seems to make them rather common as they were just handing them out to adventurers that were proven Gladiators... And some random guy gave tou want and Jenlyns said it was no good (because of the person that gave it) and traded it for another one.

So yeah an aetheric process that inscribes memories using special crystals to help in teaching people their skills.

Some jobs treat it as very special (the stones are rare and if people learn the job, they learn it the hard way. This is like AST. The guy you get the quest from doesn't have a stone, he isn't seen as worthy to even get the shortcut button. Or In BLM, it's treated as VERY rare...)

I believe that anyone can make them, you just need the knowledge to start.

[LunaHoshino]

The fact that Alberic is still holding onto his Dragoon Soulstone despite no longer being a Dragoon would seem to indicate that Dragoon ones are fairly common too.

Bard also seems to imply that there are a fair number of them floating around, as what's-his-name the Moogle was just carrying one around as a charm.

[Rafaelhades]

The fact that the MCH soul stone was created during the quest rather than already existing opens up possibilities on how future jobs can be obtained. Maybe creating advanced jobs by fusing 2 soul stones from 2 existing ones together? Or maybe infusing the stone with a stronger Aether to upgrade by accomplishing group-related tasks, ala relic?

[EdwinLi]

The fact that the MCH soul stone was created during the quest rather than already existing opens up possibilities on how future jobs can be obtained. Maybe creating advanced jobs by fusing 2 soul stones from 2 existing ones together? Or maybe infusing the stone with a stronger Aether to upgrade by accomplishing group-related tasks, ala relic?

I doubt they would have future Jobs fuse Job Soulstones to create a new Job. That may cause issues such as losing the Job Soulstone and the ability to use the Job.

Another issue is that people may complain that future Jobs would require 2 Jobs or in additional case have the new Job require 2 Jobs to be at a specific level along with complaints that they have to level a Job they do not like and how the new Job is gated behind 2 Old Jobs then more complaining about how it is a bad ideal due to not all players leveled one of the 2 Jobs and how it gates new players from accessing these Jobs due to being gated behind 2 Jobs.

[Assirra]

Well, I know Summoner Soulstones were made by the Allag and the Scholar Soulstone was made by the Nymian Scholars. I imagine that all Soulstones are made by the nations/practitioners of the job using some sort of Aetheric process.

Off topic but from where is that signature?

[Rafaelhades]

I doubt they would have future Jobs fuse Job Soulstones to create a new Job. That may cause issues such as losing the Job Soulstone and the ability to use the Job.

Another issue is that people may complain that future Jobs would require 2 Jobs or in additional case have the new Job require 2 Jobs to be at a specific level along with complaints that they have to level a Job they do not like and how the new Job is gated behind 2 Old Jobs then more complaining about how it is a bad ideal due to not all players leveled one of the 2 Jobs and how it gates new players from accessing these Jobs due to being gated behind 2 Jobs.

At some point, I think people are going to have to stop being babies and accept the fact that they were left behind. I know that SE is trying very hard to accomodate new players and veterans alike, but what happens when the 3rd-4th and 5th expansions are out?Do they simply phase out ARR and HW? Or do they just give people the cliffnotes version of the story until then? Time will come when the story of a story-driven game will progress so far ahead that anyone just jumping in will have to start from the beginning or the story won't make sense. You can't watch the 5th season of Game of Thrones and expect the entire season to give you a full background history of the events prior.

Levelling multiple jobs have always been a Final Fantasy staple. Tactics, FFTA and A2, FF1, FF5, FF11 FFX-2, FF13. In Tactics, You couldn't become a Calculator until you were lvl 8 BLM lvl 8 WHM, Time Mage, Geomancer or to become a Dark Knight, you needed lvl 8 Squire, lvl 8 Knight, Lancer, etc etc. They're advanced jobs for a reason.

We're not talking Ragnarok Online levels of job grinding here, where you needed lvl 99 of a certain class to ascend to the next class, which starts back at lvl 1, only to grind it up to 99 again for the next class. We're talking maybe getting them at 30 (which is when you get the job stone) and doing a separate quest to combine them. You don't lose the stone, just infuse the aether from both to a completely separate stone.

[EdwinLi]

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I think by that point SE may start making separate Main Storylines or have some kind of Main Storyline event that allows players to choose when they want to start out their New Character.

For example, if in 5.0 Era SE give players the option to choose to start their New character in 2.0 or 5.0. This brings back a Legacy and New Adventurer Storyline for 5.0 where Vet players who choose to stick with their character that been through 2.0 to 4.X MSQ have slightly different dialogues than New Adventurers that start out in 5.0.

Of course that would mean there may be a event in 4.X era that leads to 5.0 being a separate Main Storyline such as certain Main Antagonist or Antagonists may have been eliminated at some point in 4.0 or 4.X era thus opening up room for 5.0 to be separate and have its own new Antagonists for this new Storyline or the WoL dies in 4.X MSQ leaving room for a Successor, being the 5.0 New Adventurer, or to be reborn in Eorzea, for Legacy version of 5.0 story.

[Rafaelhades]

I think having people start over would cause more of an uproar than simply going on with the story and leaving newcomers behind. You lose more of your loyal playerbase, who has played and paid for years in favour of the fresh player who may or may not stick around. I just think the entitlement needs to go away. Yes, you pay for the game, but no, you don't deserve hand outs. Play the game that you pay for and experience it, because if you picked XIV, you play it for the story. If you're not, then I'd have to ask why you're here, because it certainly isn't to grind tomes haha.