Emotes in the cash shop..

[Naunet]

Honestly it only makes sense to put these things in the cash shop. SE has to find a balance when it comes to these seasonal events target can't simply just recycle old rewards in to every event just so new players can get them cause then old players will bitch that it's just the same stuff again

Uhm... For two years they had both old stuff AND new stuff. Your argument holds no water.

"Companies exist to make money," is not a good argument. Ever. Yeah, they exist to make money. Doesn't mean they have to slap us all around to knock every last penny from our pockets or that we should just stand by and let them do it when they do. After all, you don't stop going to a doctor when a virus makes you sick, do you? When a terrorist walks in to blow you up, do you shrug and go "oh well, that's what they exist for, can't complain about it"? I should think not. o.o

Oh my god, a sane person! Thank you. Thank you.

Why should they not charge money on an old vanity thing?

Because this is a p2p game, and content shouldn't be removed from the game to be put on a cash shop? Because players should be proactive in making sure they're not nickel and dimed? Good grief, this is a silly question.

[DragonFlyy]

Everything on the cash shop is completely optional. You don't need to buy anything in the cash shop to play the game to completion. If you don't like it, don't use it. I on the other hand don't mind a cash shop. Everquest/Everquest 2 had one for years before going F2P and that game had game breaking items on it. FFXIV is doing better with it, and it doesn't effect you if someone else buys an emote.

[LaurelinKementari]

Everything on the cash shop is completely optional. You don't need to buy anything in the cash shop to play the game to completion. If you don't like it, don't use it. I on the other hand don't mind a cash shop. Everquest/Everquest 2 had one for years before going F2P and that game had game breaking items on it. FFXIV is doing better with it, and it doesn't effect you if someone else buys an emote.

And what is 'completion'? Beating Alexander Savage? I think 'completion' in an MMO varies from player to player. If your completion goal is to beat Alexander Savage, you can do that without having to pay more on top of your already pretty hefty monthly fee. If someone has his or her completion goal set to collect all minions, he or she can't do that without having to pay extra. Why? Why is his or her monthly subscription insufficient to get full satisfaction out of the game compared to your (theoretical) one? And don't give me the crap of "it's optional and you don't need it!" because, one, that's not your call to make and two, if we follow that reasoning SE might as well add every non battle and crafting gear to the cash shop because you don't "need" the Thavnarian dancer set, or the bridesmaid dresses, or the spring dress, or the sleeper gear.

Hell, let's just go all out, shall we? They should add all furniture to the cash shop, too, because you don't "need" it to complete the game. Only gardens and workshops should be available for free in the game, everything else should be in the cash shop, since it's optional and you don't need it to complete the game. All Tripple Triad cards should also be added to the shop, since those are optional too and not needed to complete the game. Add all mounts to the cash shop, too, you only need one to beat the game and your chocobo can fulfill that role just fine, any more is just vanity and apparently vanity is not needed and if you want it you need to pay extra for it. Let's also add glamour prisms to the cash shop because glamour is optional and thus isn't needed to beat the game and can be safely added to the cash shop. Manderville Gold Saucer points should also be bought from the cash shop, since everything in Gold Saucer is optional and thus not needed to beat the game. SE should also add all emotes in the game to the cash shop, because those are fully optional, besides /poke and /beckon and the very few others you need for quest completion. Heck, why do we even have customisation options for our characters looks? All of it should go to the cash shop, one hairstyle, body-type, height, eye-colour, etc. for everyone for every race, anything more is just vanity. And don't you dare tell me "That's different!" because it's not, all you need to beat the game's story and Alexander Savage is a character, what hairstyle or look that character has is completely irrelevant towards beating that goal and is thus vanity and completely optional. To the cash shop with it!

I could probably find more optional things they should strip from the game to add to the cash shop but I think (I hope) the point's become rather clear?

[Ashkendor]

That suddenly makes this all right?

What a great welcome to new and returning players, if it was stuff that could be earned through a previous seasonal event.. why not allow it to be earned again, instead of straight up ripping off paying customers. This is unacceptable.

My guess would be because they have new items in store for this year's event. If they gave you the old items in addition to the new items, players that were here last year would complain about useless rewards and having to delete them. If they gave you a choice between the new items and the old items, those that don't have the old items would complain that they can't have both. This way they can make a new item for everyone, and those that decide they want the old item and emote can obtain it for less than the cost of a movie ticket.

I don't see how putting old event items into the cash shop is ripping off paying customers at all. You mayaswell say that since 95% of the playerbase is never going to clear A4S, that's ripping off paying customers too. You get what you pay for - access to the game's servers. Nowhere in the ToU does it say that you're entitled to access every single piece of content in the game. All of these items are optional content. Having a Blackflame Yukata has no bearing on your character's stats or abilities. It just makes you look a certain way.

Man, people are so salty over some dumb outfits. I guess you can't make everyone happy all the time.

To my knowledge, there's still no way to get the /throw emote from Christmas 2013. . . no one's complained.

I got the /throw emote from a Coerthas side quest.

[Almalexia]

That suddenly makes this all right?

Yes.

We were subscribers a year ago and we got a stupid dance out of it. If you didn't pay for it then, you're paying for it now.

[Eul]

We were subscribers a year ago and we got a stupid dance out of it.

It's not stupid dance what the hell? It's like Tanabata dance to celebrate summer season in Japan.

[Silverbane]

That suddenly makes this all right?

No, it's always been all right.

Especially since they added the gifting feature, I gifted my wife Sleipner that very day. Don't ruin the surprise, but I am going to be gifting her with the bomb dance too. And maybe some yukatas as well.

[Magis]

That suddenly makes this all right?

What a great welcome to new and returning players, if it was stuff that could be earned through a previous seasonal event.. why not allow it to be earned again, instead of straight up ripping off paying customers. This is unacceptable.

Too bad you have those players that throw the "take my money" meme encouraging this. It's funny cause the original episode is making fun of people who just throw their cash away at dumb things.

[Saccharin]

I forgot we got an emote last year. Still sad.

[XgungraveX]

relly its from a past event....