Emotes in the cash shop..

[Altera]

I don't like the cash shop either. However, I think the justification for having the emote and yukatas, etc. in the cash shop is that they continue to release new items and content each year for all the holidays as opposed to just having the same content and same items every year.

EXACTLY. It is what I have said earlier in this thread and on XIV's facebook pages. If they want the same gear and events like WOW, then they would have to stop complaining that the Devs rehash the same event and awards every year. I prefer to have to buy it for 1 - 3 euros instead and get new events and rewards.

And people who say the subscription is expensive, HOW do you manage to live 30 days pr month if this is expensive? I pay 180 days at once making it 7.99 Euros monthly as I also have the Legacy deal.

It also seems like people do not understand that they dont pay a subscription to not have to get cashshops ingame, but quite simply, be allowed access to the servers. In F2P MMOs, they have way higher prices for vanity, emotes, bagspace, extra action bars, gated content, and much else. I remember I spent maybe 200€ in 1 week on LoL on characters and skins xD

[Felis]

All the dungeons in the game are old, let's get rid of those. Coil is old AND outdated, let's get rid of that. In fact, let's get rid of everything that isn't the latest and hardest raid and have ONLY that in the game; everything else can be bought from the shop.

No, right?

We are talking about content that came as seasonal content. Content that are only ingame for a specific limited time and not again anymore. Because next year it will be another content and not the same content. Or have you seen last christmas some FATEs with a christmas treant and a snowman?

I hope you see that your example is not fitting in any way.

For everyone who dislike seasonal events in cash shop, show it to SE with not buying anything from it and by doing every coming seasonal event.

[Terribad]

I don't like the cash shop either. However, I think the justification for having the emote and yukatas, etc. in the cash shop is that they continue to release new items and content each year for all the holidays as opposed to just having the same content and same items every year.

Right! Not to mention a lot of people griped about the yukatas and bomb dance. Not to mention it's only 2 bucks! That's sooo cheap compared to every other mmo.

[SolarMisae]

No matter what SE does people will complain.

If SE made these items/emotes/etc from special events openly available for free at any time outside the events, people would complain "Why even do the events, these items or not rare or special at all, we can just get them any time!" Or maybe "I was there for the event, it's not fair people who weren't even subbed at the time can get these items so easily!"

Now if SE made the same items able to be gotten every year for these events, people would complain "Omg SE never gives us anything new! They just rehash the stuff from the old events, it's so lazy!"

So SE gives us new/different stuff each event but still makes old event stuff able to be gotten a year later by paying practically pennies. Then people complain "Omg SE is such greedy bastards charging for this content! It should be free!"

My opinion? I was there for the event, so I got it for "free" through gameplay making them special for me. However if you weren't like me, and were not subbed/did not own the game and did not participate in the events, I think it's completely fair that to get them you have to pay extra. I paid for those items with my sub, you pay for them too. :v

Seriously get over it.

[Rufalus]

They are a business. If they stopped trying to earn money, we wouldn't have a game. Be happy if they are successful financially, it means a better game for us all. You don't even need to contribute extra by paying for optional items. Optional is optional.

[Magis]

That suddenly makes this all right?

What a great welcome to new and returning players, if it was stuff that could be earned through a previous seasonal event.. why not allow it to be earned again, instead of straight up ripping off paying customers. This is unacceptable.

Too bad you have those players that throw the "take my money" meme encouraging this. It's funny cause the original episode is making fun of people who just throw their cash away at dumb things.

[Naunet]

If it already existed and came to the game. It's old content and not new, it may be "new" to a new player. But it's still old. Also..why make an event where it gives the same exact items when you can just worry about making a new event with new items and putting the old stuff in the cash shop so the focus can go to where it needs to be?

Why are making a new event with new items and providing old items somehow mutually exclusive in your system design?

1. OP Forum register year 2013

2. OP complaint, summer 2014 event items which were available to subscribing member for free during that period, have been placed in the Cash shop for summer 2015.

3. OP makes the stance that people are paying month to month ( in their place) for this content to never reach the cash shop.

4. OP never redeemed said items for free during summer 2014. (obviously wasnt a subscribing member at the time)

OR OP is against cash shops on principal. OR the OP made alts after the last summer event...

What do you guys want? For them to keep releasing the same items for every event? And then complain about not starting at that time to get the event item? Then complain about wanting new items?

This question has been answered a dozen times. We want both the new event items and the old event items available on the event vendor like it used to work for over a year.

[JepMZ]

And people who say the subscription is expensive, HOW do you manage to live 30 days pr month if this is expensive? I pay 180 days at once making it 7.99 Euros monthly as I also have the Legacy deal.

Well, forgive me if I remain unconvinced that my opinion is invalidated just because you spent less money than I did for the same thing. <_<

Back to the discussion, I'm fine with phantasia being in the cash shop, they give out like one free phantasia as veteran rewards. I'm fine with the marriage kit in the cash shop, Those are understandable new content. I'm fine with name change fees. World transfer fees are Bleh, but whatever. But old content previously available for "free" but now added as micro- transactions? That seems way too different and irksome to me

I don't know how people got the assumption that without charging previous free content, SE would have no budget at all to develop new seasonal content... As far as I can tell, there is no crown on the topic. No one from the higher ups release officially a spreadsheet showing the percentage of profits from previous event micro transaction earnings being assigned to fund which holiday content development.

Of course SE is a business. We all know that. But they have a reputation to keep. Notice how many pages this topic has? The impact with the subscribers is undeniable.

[Gemma]

I find it funny how when the cash shop was added most people were totally fine with it. I was in the minority that was against the cash shop completely.
But everyone else was like, "It's more money for SE to put into the game... It's not Pay to Win.... I'm fine with it if its strictly vanity items..."

So I decided w/e, it's there and not going anywhere, but just wait for when they add things more people want like emotes or hairstyles or new face options, then people will be pissed.
And low and behold it has happened and NOW people dislike the cash shop.

Honestly, if you want it that bad buy it. In fact I'm sure a lot of people will eventually give in and buy the stuff they want. And there's nothing wrong with that, because it is true that's its vanity items that doesn't effect your gameplay, only enhances your immersion. We live in an age of gaming where pretty much all games have micro transactions in some way, hardly any game comes out now with EVERYTHING included in the game. There's always DLC packs or new skins etc..

The time to have banded together against the cash shop has sadly passed so either embrace it or ignore it, simple as that.

[FallenArisen0990]

Why does everyone keep calling it content? It doesn't progress your character at all. All it gives you is a vanity item (set) for literally little to no work whatsoever. The problem is people don't understand that Seasonal items are limited items available for a short period of time. Hell, some MMOs are like, "Oh you missed the event? Too bad." Having the same items every year is dumb. You put up a Seasonal Event, only like 3 or 4 people do the event while the other 99% of the server completely ignores it all together. Buy it or don't, who cares. People expect to get everything when that never happens in any MMO. It is impossible to have every item in the game..