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  1. #161
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Nice try, Kallera.

    Can't get items you didn't do the seasonal quest for. And while the Salvager makes for an easy answer, why bother with seasonal events then? Just wait til the gear is dumped there and get it later! Great idea!

    Also, it needs to be asked: where was all this rage when the Halloween/Valentine's/etc. gear went to the cash shop? Or is THIS gear somehow special? (Let's also skip the "emote only" rebuttal. You had to do the event for the new Yukatas too).
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  2. #162
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    Teryaani's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodicca View Post
    The loss of subs had everything to do with the expansion being crap. Pure and simple. And it was specifically designed to be crap. Cut content, cut development, cut features, bare bones expansion is exactly what WoD is. They also offer unique mounts in the cash shop, not in game. Why put something cool in the game when you can charge extra for it? Blizzard developers have pretty much said they expected subs to drop, and they don't care. They don't care because they can develop their game on the cheap, hype the next xpac, and make their profits by adding more "premium services." Their own words.
    They don't care because they know the game is 10 years old and has had it's run. To be honest, the legion expansion announcement surprised me. That may mean that Blizzard doesn't have another title close enough to keep fans happy. Certainly they lost "Titan" to Bungie and it sounded like they were banking on that.

    Square isn't doing what blizzard does with their cash shop and the game is a new title, not one on the way out. .
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  3. #163
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    Ever since the game came out there has only been one expensive mount in the cash shop, so i dont think game is going down a "slippery slope" with cash shop.

    Oh I bought my yukata with 3 dollars worth of quarters i found on the ground on my way home today, and im flipping happy.
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  4. #164
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    Just poor ppl crying cause they can't afford dollar store items. The self entitlement in this thread is disgusting.
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  5. #165
    Player Ilitsa's Avatar
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodicca View Post
    No one said the loss of subs had to do with mounts in the cash shop.
    Except the post I had quoted implied, intended or not, that you were equating the cash shop to their loss of subs, I never said WoD was good, i've been adamantly criticizing it since the launch event came up. WoD was horrendous for the exact reasons you stated and more. What would you prefer though? a simple $2 for the emote, or no one EVER be able to get it again AT ALL? if those were the only two options, so don't answer with the "I'd rather it just in game" you have to choose between 2 bucks or never again. Personally, I'd choose the 2 bucks.

    Also, I agree that the cash shop isn't "a good thing for players", I have no delusion there, it is entirely "for profit" only, but I don't think it's as huge of a problem as people make it out to be, personally.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    They don't care because they know the game is 10 years old and has had it's run. To be honest, the legion expansion announcement surprised me. That may mean that Blizzard doesn't have another title close enough to keep fans happy. Certainly they lost "Titan" to Bungie and it sounded like they were banking on that.

    Square isn't doing what blizzard does with their cash shop and the game is a new title, not one on the way out. .
    The title being "ten years old" means nothing. If WoW was still set in vanilla, then the game would be ten years old.

    Eight months ago over 10 million players were subbed to WoW and I'm pretty sure most new titles would love to have those numbers. Millions of people wanted to play an MMO that was hyped to be created with all the passion and innovation that Blizzard was known for pre-Cata. Unfortunately, this was not the case. At all. Half the player base didn't leave because the franchise is ten years old. They left because the expansion is shallow and cheap.

    Being an old title means nothing to how well a game is developed. And new titles fail all the time.

    The announcement of Legion wasn't a huge surprise to me since Blizzard has been talking yearly expansions for some time now. I expect it to be nothing more than a WoD II.

    As far as SE not doing what Blizzard is doing with their cash shop, I'm not so sure what selling an event reward without having the event in game is. It doesn't sit well with me at all.
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  7. #167
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    Bought bomb dance, love dance emotes, now I can do maderville and bomb dance mid fight to mess with fc mates. I also can pretend to be Dancer until the job comes out.
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodicca View Post
    The title being "ten years old" means nothing. If WoW was still set in vanilla, then the game would be ten years old.
    Except it does mean something when your company does nothing to keep pace with newer hardware. The game feels and looks old.


    Eight months ago over 10 million players were subbed to WoW and I'm pretty sure most new titles would love to have those numbers. Millions of people wanted to play an MMO that was hyped to be created with all the passion and innovation that Blizzard was known for pre-Cata. Unfortunately, this was not the case. At all. Half the player base didn't leave because the franchise is ten years old. They left because the expansion is shallow and cheap.
    They left because it had the same problems they had seen before the last time they unsubbed and yes, it was crap. You seem to want to ignore the fact that I agree with you and have said so that the expac was crap.

    Being an old title means nothing to how well a game is developed. And new titles fail all the time.
    Which is nothing like what I said. The title is showing it's age. Do you disagree with that?

    The announcement of Legion wasn't a huge surprise to me since Blizzard has been talking yearly expansions for some time now. I expect it to be nothing more than a WoD II.
    It surprised me as they should be putting their efforts at their next generation offering. Of course, all legion is likely to be is the bits that should have been in WoD at launch.

    As far as SE not doing what Blizzard is doing with their cash shop, I'm not so sure what selling an event reward without having the event in game is. It doesn't sit well with me at all.
    They've been putting previous holiday items in now for a while. How is this any different than the past events? Would you prefer them just remain one-time items that nobody has access to?
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyaha View Post
    That suddenly makes this all right?
    No, it's always been all right.

    Especially since they added the gifting feature, I gifted my wife Sleipner that very day. Don't ruin the surprise, but I am going to be gifting her with the bomb dance too. And maybe some yukatas as well.
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  10. #170
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    I was actually disappointed that all the new stuff in the store are things that I already own, I wanted to buy a new mount or outfit and yeah I don't care if they have a cash shop in the game as long as it doesn't affect the gameplay experience.
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