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    Baby crafters.

    I'm new to crafting like a whole lot of others. It seems like, despite the changes to crafting, loads of people try their luck in the crafting content and I am really enjoying it so far. Since I raid a lot, I just want to get everything to 60 first and get all the books. I'll worry about scrips later.

    It gets a bit overwhelming for me when to think of three DoH to specialize in. I have read people's opinions as to what would be the best choice. It appears to not make a very big difference if you level all DoH to 60.

    Can someone give honest, objective advice on how big an influence specialization is? Or am I right to think it's not that big of a choice when you level everything to 60?
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    Read the red scrips topics first, before you decide. If you raid a lot I'm not sure if you will have the time for the [Massive Grind] that red scrips currently is. They might change that a bit next week, so it would idea to wait for that, I think.
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    The specialization mechanic adds an additional set of skills to your choice of three classes. The general feeling I get from my own experience and from reading these forums is that the new skills are possibly, questionably, useful but definitely not a hard requirement to be able to make the top tier stuff these days. I personally have one of the specialist souls assigned to Goldsmith and haven't allocated the other two yet.

    From a more practical standpoint, your choice of which classes to invest red scrips into gear for first will probably make a bigger difference than which classes you assign the specialist actions to. I'm personally starting with the accessories in order to give all of my classes the boost they offer. As far as choosing particular classes to focus on, it mostly comes down to choosing what items you want to be able to make more effectively.
    - For gearing up your own classes, LTW and WVR make most of the left-side gear, CRP makes most of the accessories, and BSM makes most of the mainhand and offhand tools. BSM would likely be a good one to start with if you're looking to make your jobs two-star capable (this can be done without any of the red scrip-based gear, but it takes a ton of melding to do) since the crafted offhand items give a pretty big boost. Do note that most of the BSM recipes require mats made by other classes, so you might need to pick up some of those as stepping stones if you don't know someone who is doing those jobs.
    - Goldsmith has historically been a good class for crafting high end gear, since crafted accessories are generally more useful than other crafted gear at high ends, but do note that they haven't released any combat-oriented two-star accessory recipes at this point.
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    For current recipes specialization is not required, however this could easily change later on.
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    i think the biggest question you have to ask yourself is what you want to accomplish from crafting.

    if its mainly to support your raiding then you wont need to worry about the red scrip system at all as the things we currently get from them are for future crafting and not current crafting.

    its also a retardedly crazy gated system way worse than obtaining gear for or from raids.

    that being said crafting at 60 is very easy right now with a decent amount of goods to be made and sold, however it must be said they are all virtually glam pieces or levelling pieces. there's some new crafted minions and barding and the like as well but all the new recipes have a high material requirement and because of that it can be expensive to craft recipes to sell if you are purchasing all your mats.

    the biggest benefit is self repair and making anything you personally want with little to no real cost. this will change in the future with new things added mind.

    as it stands right now though end game crafting is either gearing for future content utilising the worst possible time gated grind or supporting peoples desires for the new cool thing that can be crafted. oh you also get to support airship manufacturing if your into that kind of thing.
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    I took a look at how to obtain red scrips. Has to be a bad joke right? I guess I'll start sooner rather than later..
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    Specialization is nothing, lol.

    I have all my x class skills and I can craft absolutely everything.
    I haven't specialized, at all.

    If you are going to have all your x class... Specialization is meaningless.
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    For some reason I thought red scrips were capped at 2000, must have overlooked it.

    I'm at 500 now, so that means I need to spend them. On what and where?
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    Just buy the Rowena tokens with them. Everything you actually spend the scrips on (mats and gear) involves trading in the tokens with the exception of the crafter souls that let you change what your specializations are.

    You trade the tokens in at the Splendors Vendor in Idyllshire. Need to do the level 60 DOH/DOL quest that unlocks the scrip counter in Idyllshire if you haven't already.
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    TBH OP?
    You have done the 'hard' parts already.

    As a "Hard core" crafter, my monumental chore is not leveling the crafts, it is clearing the gated content to get to the crafts. If I were in your shoes, with a 60 DoW and all quests cleared for MSQ and HW unlock, getting crafts and gathering to 60 is a time sink but "hard"? No, not so much. I have 8 crafts mostly 51, 3 Gathering 51+ and a MSQ of 32 with nothing done in GC promotion or beast tribes.

    You will be gathering red scripts before me.
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