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    One thing I would like to point out: most people who are complaining about AST not making into savage are not progressing by using WHM or SCH. I see a lot of groups in my server that are using AST and progressing and every PF I see looking for a healer does not exclude AST. I believe people are using a minority of groups to account for the whole, and that's a big mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    One thing I would like to point out: most people who are complaining about AST not making into savage are not progressing by using WHM or SCH. I see a lot of groups in my server that are using AST and progressing and every PF I see looking for a healer does not exclude AST. I believe people are using a minority of groups to account for the whole, and that's a big mistake.
    So far you've done alot of talking, and not much else. You don't state facts and you obviously make certain things up. Watch this:

    "I see alot of groups in my server that aren't using AST and progressing."

    See how easy that was?

    You can't just contradict common sense and personal experience and expect everyone to believe you.

    AST is objectively worse than WHM and SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geardagas View Post
    So far you've done alot of talking, and not much else. You don't state facts and you obviously make certain things up. Watch this:

    "I see alot of groups in my server that aren't using AST and progressing."

    See how easy that was?

    You can't just contradict common sense and personal experience and expect everyone to believe you.

    AST is objectively worse than WHM and SCH.
    I don't have to make anything up, Geardagas, because I already have a raid group and we're doing it with me as AST, so I couldn't care less about how other groups feel about the job. I've seen people not clearing it with WHM/SCH and clearing it with AST/SCH and WHM/AST.
    I've said it a lot of times in other posts that it can be easier with WHM/SCH and the reason is simple: people are used to doing that combo, so there are no surprises during raid. When people start raiding, and that's specially true for healers, you see that lots of things you thought were useful during dungeons or leveling are not good during raid, so there's a learning curve. It's always going to be easier to do what you're already familiar with, because you can use your previous knowledge to deal with stuff. Mechanics repeat themselves, there's nothing that new in the raiding scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geardagas View Post
    So far you've done alot of talking, and not much else. You don't state facts and you obviously make certain things up. Watch this:

    "I see alot of groups in my server that aren't using AST and progressing."

    See how easy that was?

    You can't just contradict common sense and personal experience and expect everyone to believe you.

    AST is objectively worse than WHM and SCH.
    Common sense playing a game? Common sense would tell me to stop even attempting to defend against the wall of trash threads coming up against a job that is fantastic minus the nerf to stance dancing.

    And I do not have to be a scholar or white mage to know what my current strength is compared to them because I can see myself side by side with them.
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    Don't even bother with him, Vlady; apparently, he hasn't done Savage. He just posted in another thread calling me a liar because I said that I use Synastry during double prey in A1 Savage. He claimed that there's not enough time for it to be out of cooldown, but there's a 2 minute window between preys in Savage due to Resin bombs. It's possible to time it by watching videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Common sense playing a game? Common sense would tell me to stop even attempting to defend against the wall of trash threads coming up against a job that is fantastic minus the nerf to stance dancing.

    And I do not have to be a scholar or white mage to know what my current strength is compared to them because I can see myself side by side with them.
    Yes, but you can't see how good your raid would be without you.

    Man, do the ast fanboys have any substance to their claims? Like, at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geardagas View Post
    Yes, but you can't see how good your raid would be without you.

    Man, do the ast fanboys have any substance to their claims? Like, at all?
    Taking this a bit personal aren't you? You seem to be trolling and ridiculing every post that does not support you. It weakens your arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    Taking this a bit personal aren't you? You seem to be trolling and ridiculing every post that does not support you. It weakens your arguments.
    He says "fanboys" have no claims, but he called me a liar for saying that I can use Synastry for preys in A1S. He didn't bring any evidence to support his claim that it was impossible, said I was playing a different game and whatever. He hasn't even done the fight (or is not paying attention to it) to know that the prey mechanics happen every 2 minutes, making it possible to use Synastry for every single one of them. He's just a troll, like a lot of others in this forum, trying to bash a job he's prolly too unskilled to play.
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