Collective Unconcious

[Vlady]

Oh hey. Since when is A1-A4 savage mode? No I would not use double astro for savage mode the same i wouldnt use double scholar either. Too much stepping on each other's toes. Still waiting for your answer when did I say I know of double astro in Savage? You seem to know I said a1-14 as normal but you oddly seem to echo the guy's question despite knowing I did not say that. You doubling down on your own false statement just blew your ability to argue about validity of any claim you make on astro strength.

[Ghishlain]

Oh hey. Since when is A1-A4 savage mode? No I would not use double astro for savage mode the same i wouldnt use double scholar either. Too much stepping on each other's toes. Still waiting for your answer when did I say I know of double astro in Savage? You seem to know I said a1-14 as normal but you oddly seem to echo the guy's question despite knowing I did not say that. You doubling down on your own false statement just blew your ability to argue about validity of any claim you make on astro strength.

So, when are you going to answer the rest of the post? *Taps ruler against palm impatiently* Oh, wait, never, because you won't - like how you've always dodged every issue and refute that has come against you.

You can only defend against the "obvious". You can only defend against the one minor flaw I left in my argument for you to actually STEP ON because you have no actual evidence or refute or counter to the rest of my post.

GG.

[Vlady]

Why did you even quote that when you know what I meant? You brought it up not me. Why do I have to answer what is obvious the answer is to you? Tit for tat much? No I also shot down a claim about the japanese forums are up in arms with how weak astrologians are supposedly.

Most of that was before the buffs. I also told you I am not a math numbers person so will not defend your napkin math when you would step all over me on that lol. You also do not factor in most dps are melee oriented and more then likely you will get either arrow/balance/spire which provides more then just a 7% when you actually parse enough to get an average.

[Whiteroom]

Why did you even quote that when you know what I meant? You brought it up not me. Why do I have to answer what is obvious the answer is to you? Tit for tat much?

TBH, you are avoiding the core of his post. The numbers. I'm actually quite interested to see them, since I have felt a bit underwhelmed by the cards until this point. Being able to increase someone's output by 400 is huge, like omfgastroisgreat!

[Ghishlain]

Vlady, if this is the only issue you have against me in this entire thread:

I truly would love to speak to these supposed double AST in Savage 2 and by luck I'm on Balmung so hit me up because I just do not see how even combined they can make up for the lost DPS I provide, let alone the mitigation, healing and buffs I can provide coupled with a WHM. Truly, I would LOVE to speak with them.

I truly would love to speak to these supposed double AST in Savage 2 and by luck I'm on Balmung so hit me up because I just do not see how even combined they can make up for the lost DPS I provide, let alone the mitigation, healing and buffs I can provide coupled with a WHM. Truly, I would LOVE to speak with them.

I truly would love to speak to these supposed double AST in Savage 2

I truly would love to speak to these supposed double AST in Savage 2

I truly would love to speak to these supposed double AST in Savage 2

I rest my case about you and every single supposed retort / refute you've ever made in this forum.

Good night, sir. Happy trolling.

[Vlady]

Vlady, if this is the only issue you have against me in this entire thread:

I rest my case about you and every single supposed retort / refute you've ever made in this forum.

Good night, sir. Happy trolling.

Ok I will bite.

I DID NOT SAY THAT SO HOW IS IT RELEVANT. I DID NOT SAY THAT SO HOW IS IT RELEVANT. HOW DID I SAY THAT SO HOW IT IS RELEVANT.

Refute all of your statements that you have been shot down on and I will gladly mince words with you about any other topic.

[Muahbec]

Ok I will bite.

I DID NOT SAY THAT SO HOW IS IT RELEVANT. I DID NOT SAY THAT SO HOW IS IT RELEVANT. HOW DID I SAY THAT SO HOW IT IS RELEVANT.

Refute all of your statements that you have been shot down on and I will gladly mince words with you about any other topic.

Vlady, stop.
Turn away.
Leave.
Thanks .

[Galdous]

Amazing how every thread derails so easily.. But even in the best case scenarios the highest burst ive ever seen in a 15-20 second window for a dragoon is around the 2200-2500 mark for just a few seconds and even then you would at most only provide 230 dps with a 10% balance card. It is more likely 170-180 while the dragoon had all of his buffs up in a raid with full raid buffs. Where did 400 come from?

Vlady, if this is the only issue you have in this entire thread:


I rest my case about you and every single supposed retort / refute you've ever made in this forum.

Good night, sir. Happy trolling.

Lol. Why does he have to defend something he never even said. That sorta nulls him even having to answer questions that are misinformed to begin with.
How can you rest your case against a misunderstanding at most and at worse a fabrication and or lie. I would stick with his 400 dps claim and let that be. But I have seen a parse improvement from being constantly buffed by astrologians over 120. My normal is around 1100 dps but with a machinist who focused arrow/balance/spire with me I was able to improve my personal dps an easy 100+ so he is telling the truth on one account.

[Ghishlain]

Lol. Why does he have to defend something he never even said. That sorta nulls him even having to answer questions that are misinformed to begin with.
How can you rest your case against a misunderstanding at most and at worse a fabrication and or lie. I would stick with his 400 dps claim and let that be. But I have seen a parse improvement from being constantly buffed by astrologians over 120. My normal is around 1100 dps but with a machinist who focused arrow/balance/spire with me I was able to improve my personal dps an easy 100+ so he is telling the truth on one account.

I'll respond once more just for you, Gladous.

Show us the parse.

That is all - because I know neither of you will actually post the parse as evidence.

[Galdous]

I'll respond once more just for you, Gladous.

Show us the parse.

That is all - because I know neither of you will actually post the parse as evidence.

I honestly dont care whether astro gets nerfed or buffed. I am not going to waste an hour of my time when I do not even know how to break down ACT that shows what buffs you have or have not. I only know what I personally have experience with when being buffed by astrologians in dungeons. Why not you show me a PARSE with an astro buffs showing it does not buff my dps by 100+ over the course of a dungeon? I only came here to point out the hypocrisy you drum down upon someone wanting an answer to a statement that was misinformed then demand he still gives an answer that doesnt exsist because the statement was out right wrong.

Its like looking at a horse and someone says the horse is a dog and wants to know the weight of the dog. That statement makes as much sense as your statement does demanding an answer to a questioned statement that was never said.

And I am honoured you would choose me to respond to just for once.