Collective Unconcious

[GideonHighmourn]

Yes, they do. Read the tooltip. It says you can't use Asylum or Sacred Soil with another ground AoE. I tested it in A1S when I did it as SCH, and it canceled my WHM's Asylum. The reason why I tell people like you to l2p is very simple: you don't know the basics of any healing class in this game and only spread misconceptions about the jobs.

I don't need to prove it as someone already has. In the future, if you would, please refrain from insulting people and claiming that they need to "l2p". This is your go-to argument for the majority of your posts and it's incredibly ironic considering the situation you've found yourself in.

[Lorielle]

Wish I saw this post earlier. I would have gladly posted as SS. The rule of thumb of you being unsure of how things work is to shut up and not talk about it. Don't talk about it like you have all the knowledge in the world(adding insults on top of that). Because then you find yourself in a situation that someone WILL prove you wrong and make you look like an idiot.

Any credibility you had(if any at all...) was just lost. You're pretty much going down there with a few others that make silly claims.

[Aldebaran92]

While I agree that CU, along with other AST abilities, could be a lot better and less lackluster, not even using it at all no matter what is just bad. I know there aren't that many fights where you can safely channel it, but for example if my party uses the "everyone stack in the middle and soak the damage"-method in A3 during the hand phase, I can use it after the knockback and just let the regen do its thing while at the same time recovering some MP. Even if you deem a class bad, it's not going to get any better by not using the abilities given to you.

[Rox_Unlimited]

There's a reason for that. Asylum/Sacred Soil cancel each other, while Collective Unconscious stack with both of them. They had to create a weakness, otherwise it would be too OP.

They don't though.

[Volsung]

I personally would go so far as to say that cu is bad. Especially when compared to whm/sch counterparts. Nocturnal side is baaaad. I'm not afraid to voice my opinion of that.

[VitalSuit]

I find it funny that the people I put on my ignore list are people that are blindly defending AST with no knowledge of its multitude of cons or are just flat out ignorant (TatoRazzino, Vlady)

[Geardagas]

While I agree that CU, along with other AST abilities, could be a lot better and less lackluster, not even using it at all no matter what is just bad. I know there aren't that many fights where you can safely channel it, but for example if my party uses the "everyone stack in the middle and soak the damage"-method in A3 during the hand phase, I can use it after the knockback and just let the regen do its thing while at the same time recovering some MP. Even if you deem a class bad, it's not going to get any better by not using the abilities given to you.

Except I can count on one hand the situations where using it wont get your entire raid killed. The ridiculous limitation on it needs to be removed, no questions asked.

[Seryl199]

Collective Unconscious is the strongest AoE heal in the game (200 potency, 6 ticks for 1200 potency), and it's free to boot, it doesn't seem so outrageous that it's also the hardest AoE heal to use. The fact that it has a smaller radius than other bubbles, and much smaller than AoE heals, roots you, and prevents you from casting, are collectively very strict limitations that bring a powerful, situational heal down to a niche ability. I feel like changing or eliminating any one of those limitations would bring up CU's game and make it more usable. It's Nocturnal Sect effect, though, is nowhere near as powerful, and needs a lot of love to become more usable.

[Yhisa]

Nah its awsome to bubble whist ravana picks up up on phase change I'm always doing this and it just heals whilst he does his little dance by the time we all back on the floor we look as if he did nothing to us... My fc love the bubble its nice and I use it alot and I'm ilvl 190... Thing is ast I love it alot and nothing is going to make me change from it.. Also I'm main healer with a SCH off heal u be surprised the tricks we can do

[Yhisa]

Just say I use it for my lazy mode heal I just stack my hots if everyone group I just use it to heal all together with hots I'm healing 2k+ every few secs xD there is alot of tricks u can do with AST it just a healing class that requires a brain to use lol