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  1. 08-06-2015 06:17 AM
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    Gideon Highmourn
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    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    Yes, they do. Read the tooltip. It says you can't use Asylum or Sacred Soil with another ground AoE. I tested it in A1S when I did it as SCH, and it canceled my WHM's Asylum. The reason why I tell people like you to l2p is very simple: you don't know the basics of any healing class in this game and only spread misconceptions about the jobs.
    I don't need to prove it as someone already has. In the future, if you would, please refrain from insulting people and claiming that they need to "l2p". This is your go-to argument for the majority of your posts and it's incredibly ironic considering the situation you've found yourself in.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    You can edit your post to get past the 1K character limit. It's really silly design flaw on S-Es forum. I generally I find it's best to write out your whole message, cut out a large block of it, post the message, edit the message, then paste the message back down. You can temporarily paste onto Notepad as a safety measure.

    @Topic - I don't think Collective Unconsciousness is useless, but it certainly is quite limited when compared to the its counterparts - Asylum and Sacred Soil - namely because it restricts the caster from doing anything in the mean time. I would've much preferred it to be a bubble that is dropped around the AST upon use but didn't restrict them. That or boost the Noct version of Collective Unconsciousness in the same way they did the Diurnal version (that delicious 200 potency/tick heal) and make it 15% or something to that effect. Collective Unconsciousness should be more powerful than their WHM and SCH equivalents if they wish to fully and completely restrict the caster in the process.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 08-06-2015 at 06:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    You can edit your post to get past the 1K character limit. It's really silly design flaw on S-Es forum. I generally I find it's best to write out your whole message, cut out a large block of it, post the message, edit the message, then paste the message back down. You can temporarily paste onto Notepad as a safety measure.
    Thanks I'll be sure to do this next time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius85 View Post
    Thanks I'll be sure to do this next time!
    The edit function is also a delete function to, so you can actually edit your posts and paste them into your opening post then delete the second, third, etc posts afterwards~

    Be warned that you can't edit from your phone if you're trying to post anything from that medium (also means you can't bypass the 1K limit on the phone).

    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    Yes, they do. Read the tooltip. It says you can't use Asylum or Sacred Soil with another ground AoE. I tested it in A1S when I did it as SCH, and it canceled my WHM's Asylum. The reason why I tell people like you to l2p is very simple: you don't know the basics of any healing class in this game and only spread misconceptions about the jobs.
    That tooltip is for other ground based abilities that the same caster has. So a SCH can't have both Sacred Soil and Shadow Flare up, but Asylum and Sacred Soil can both be up at the same time as they come from two different sources. I believe the reason Asylum says that is for the PvP ability Sacred Prism.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 08-06-2015 at 06:18 AM.

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    Sidra Swiftwind
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    Collective Unconscious is actually ok in diurnal - it has some niche uses. Noct version is total garbage and needs buffed. IMO up to 15% mitigation and the AST remains impervious during its duration (to make it safe to move into harms way to use it).
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    Blair Waldorf
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    I'm only saying what I tested. I used Sacred Soil on top of my partner's Asylum, and it vanished (he had just cast that thing).
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    Blair Waldorf
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    Read the Asylum tooltip, not the Sacred Soil one.
    "Envelops a designated area in a veil of succor, healing any party members who enter.
    Cure Potency: 100 Duration: 24s Cannot be used with any other area-creating actions."
    Notice the "any". You can test it, if you want.
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    Last edited by TatoRazzino; 08-06-2015 at 06:45 AM.

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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    Read the Asylum tooltip, not the Sacred Soil one.
    "Envelops a designated area in a veil of succor, healing any party members who enter.
    Cure Potency: 100 Duration: 24s Cannot be used with any other area-creating actions."
    AKA Asylum+sacred prism
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    Just test it and see how your Sacred Soil will cancel the Asylum. You're misreading the tooltip and ignoring the fact that I have tested the thing. I have absolutely no interest in telling lies to make AST look good. The more SE buffs the job, the better for me, since I main it. It can receive 50% more healing potency for all I care, it will only make me more desirable in raid groups, not the opposite. However, if you don't believe me, test it yourself. Go to Idyllshire, get a WHM in your party and ask him/her to cast Asylum in a spot then cast Sacred Soil on top of it. You'll see how it vanishes. After that, get an AST and ask the WHM to cast Asylum and the AST to use collective unconscious while under the WHM's bubble. It's simple.
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