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    Great post, OP.

    AST is fun, and I really like it a lot aesthetically and play style wise. I think its great to be so active as a healer.

    I do agree that if they are going to buff anything it should be the effects of the tarot cards. As a "jack of all trades" class it will never have the pure healing power of a WHM or the same barriers as a SCH, but its unique asset is buffing. I would love to see the cards powered up to be a more essential part of the healing process, because I even find myself defaulting to a WHM style of spamming burst heals when things get sticky. It would be nice to have some more security in investing in card pulls, rather than treating it like a fun little extra cirricular activity when I'm not being overwhelmed "actually" healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deigewolf View Post
    As a "jack of all trades" class it will never have the pure healing power of a WHM or the same barriers as a SCH, but its unique asset is buffing.
    To be honest I have seen this argument and I can't understand it. SCH has many of the same buffing capabilities that we do on top of having great shielding and healing capabilities with the ability to buff their own heals. And they also have a lot of dps skills (an unintended design decision stemming from having two jobs on one base class, and one SE has said they regret, but the fact remains it's still there). Yet nobody says SCH needs to have some sort of hybrid tax, because nobody says they're a hybrid. Yes AST needs better buffs and better healing cooldowns, but we are most definitely not a jack of all trades and do not need to be dealing with the cons of one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deigewolf View Post

    I do agree that if they are going to buff anything it should be the effects of the tarot cards. As a "jack of all trades" class it will never have the pure healing power of a WHM or the same barriers as a SCH, but its unique asset is buffing. I would love to see the cards powered up to be a more essential part of the healing process, because I even find myself defaulting to a WHM style of spamming burst heals when things get sticky. It would be nice to have some more security in investing in card pulls, rather than treating it like a fun little extra cirricular activity when I\\'m not being overwhelmed "actually" healing.

    So even with said buffs, if fights are tuned for a buffing ast and an actual healer, than the content is trivial with two actual healers.


    Moving on. Ast is a healing class. It needs to compete in healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    It's already too late for most of us. I've just resigned and only play AST for funzies in primals now.

    Even if they do buff it, most of us will already have our esoteric gear for a different healer (myself included with scholar), so we still won't get to play it.

    Just so disappointed. Wanted to main this class, but I can't justify playing what is easily the worst job in the game right now.

    I was like you, I actually didn't have much problem solo healing the first phase of A1S (though someone would die occassionally), but I'd be oom pretty quick in the second phase and keeping people topped felt impossible...just so sad.
    This. Not to mention savage will be on farm by 3.1. It needs to be buffed yesterday.
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    A jack of all trades healer will never have a place in the raid. Ever. You bring another DPS if you can afford to be light on heals.
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    Scholar is already the Jack of all trades. Astrologian is just a dumbed down version of it.
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    It really sucks. I am another one that was REALLY looking forward to Astrologian.
    Heck, I love how the class looks and plays...
    I am trying to decide whether I want to stick with it to 60, or level another healer now.
    I have scholar at 55, Astrologian at 41 and am considering trying white mage for a while.
    AST are just so much more fun than Sch and Whm to me .

    I just dunno if I am willing to just trust that they will get them up there with Whm and Sch.
    Kinda sucks if one healer will just always be inherently worse and a burden in comparison to your team.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    It really sucks. I am another one that was REALLY looking forward to Astrologian.
    Heck, I love how the class looks and plays...
    I am trying to decide whether I want to stick with it to 60, or level another healer now.
    I have scholar at 55, Astrologian at 41 and am considering trying white mage for a while.
    AST are just so much more fun than Sch and Whm to me .

    I just dunno if I am willing to just trust that they will get them up there with Whm and Sch.
    Kinda sucks if one healer will just always be inherently worse and a burden in comparison to your team.....
    *boggle emote* Why are you letting peer pressure try to change your perception on what you want to play. If you enjoy the job then play the job and do not worry about what other people think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    *boggle emote* Why are you letting peer pressure try to change your perception on what you want to play. If you enjoy the job then play the job and do not worry about what other people think.
    Being replaced or not being invited in the first place is not peer pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DkDerek View Post
    Being replaced or not being invited in the first place is not peer pressure.
    If you do your role well then that will not be an issue. If they force you to change job based on healer forum drama then maybe the static is not meant for you. I would find friends that do not try to force you to change jobs if you do not want. I see statics recruiting on balmung chatter all the time for white/astro in case someone has the mind to think that astrologians are not wanted.
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