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  1. #31
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    Lethargy is still one of my favorite skills for Fire Weaving... since it has a very short cooldown... but I can see how it loses value once at 60.
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  2. #32
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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Lethargy is still one of my favorite skills for Fire Weaving... since it has a very short cooldown... but I can see how it loses value once at 60.
    But since it's just free and instant, I suppose BLMs should just weave it into the rotation for whatever little uptime it may have.
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  3. #33
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    MistyMew's Avatar
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    Misty Mew
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    But since it's just free and instant, I suppose BLMs should just weave it into the rotation for whatever little uptime it may have.
    lolol
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  4. #34
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    WingsOfAzrael's Avatar
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    Character
    Emarial Artayu
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    whm: stone, repose, fluid aurora
    sch: dissipation,
    blm: surecast, convert, sleep, scathe, lathergy
    summoner: physick

    edit: found ways to work some of these skills into my hotbars.
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    Last edited by WingsOfAzrael; 08-06-2015 at 06:20 AM.

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    One ilm punch can remove aether flow stacks. Please tell me how that's useless...
    The reason monk is the only job a summoner cant solo. If the monk doesnt use one ilm punch s/he is probably new to pvp

    On topic: Summoner hasnt changed much. Or well they changed the good way. New rotations and fun spells but I havent stopped using any of my older ones
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  6. #36
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    KaitlynOfOz's Avatar
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    Kaitlyn Keras
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Seriously? No love for repose? True it is more situational than anything else, but its not useless. And to say fluid aura is useless obviously has not done t9, anything where melee monsters wanna eat your face, or have any idea how positioning adds can be useful. That monster you is eating your face and the tank is ignoring, fluid then sleep his ass. 30 seconds of uninterrupted joy while slapping your tank to do their job. Stone is useful in A3 during the tornado phase (if you don't understand why, i just can't)
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  7. #37
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    Vurtney's Avatar
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    Character
    Saryn Storm
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    There's not a single useless ability or spell for a warrior which itself is quite a feat. The least used skill, as myself, might be Decimate and the only times i've used it is when solo'ing old dungeons or random quests. All in all, Warriors have a solid kit of tools as of right now.
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  8. #38
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    Maero's Avatar
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Blm: Freeze i agree has always more or less been useless, Lethargy no question is either as casting ice results in the same effect.
    Pre HW i was using T3 but now in hw i find myself going to thunder more.
    Bard: Other useless abilities, well some say wide volley is useless but the cone or area that quicknock actually hits enemies i still much prefer wide volley. I honestly do not know why some Bards used it pre hw over wide volley.
    And i actually know how to manage tp so not an issue.
    PLD: ok sort of a new ability but sheltron is not at all that useful, lol
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  9. #39
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    JammerSidewinder's Avatar
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    Character
    Jammer Sidewinder
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saerie View Post
    Abyssal Drain from Dark Knight, Seriously I hate this skill so much.
    Purification from Monk - This is a very underwhelming skill , I can live with Invigorate.
    What is wrong with Abyssal Drain? It doesn't see use in single target as an aoe, but on aoe pulls it's really good. Blood Price + Bloodbath + Dark Arts every other Abyssal Drain and you heal yourself right up easily with all that aoe.
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  10. #40
    Player TheWaywardWind's Avatar
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    Alexander Miller
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by justinjarjar View Post
    Feint I could maybe see (even then you are losing dps to use it), one ilm punch has been declared useless in pvp and pve it keeps you away from GL stacks and at best removes protect. I mean SMN, BLM, NIN, and WHM are true thou.
    One Ilm Punch has not been declared 'useless' in PvP. It's fine in PvP, I can't remember the amount of times I've removed a full stack of Aetherflow from an opponent before.
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