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    Spontaner's Avatar
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    Millia Freecss
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    ok ty for the help^^
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Scholar Lv 70
    IMO assuming you're capping each week and not doing savage/not getting any drops from savage:
    Week 3: weapon
    Week 4: off ring
    week 5: body
    Week 7: legs
    week 8: boots
    Week 9: hat
    week 10:hand
    week 11: wrist
    week 12: neck
    week 13: ear
    week 14: waist

    based on pure mnd/eso and giving pref to crit when mnd/eso are equivalent.

    Do not sacrifice ilvl for crit. Secondary scale back is drastic.

    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    I'm confused why you say the boost is minimal. The weapon damage upgrade is pretty significant even over the loss of crit. Especially if she's expected to dps in savage as scholar.
    If you're in full i190 alex right now + hive weapon youre 100 wd/944 mnd/621 crit.

    Switching out for antiquated elements brings you to 102wd/953mnd/538 crit.

    Guestimating based off the drg stat weights being floated around, wd is worth something close to 9-10 of a primary stat making this an effective gain of ~30 mind for a loss of 1.5% crit chance (11 vs 9.5%).

    The combination of secondary scaleback and the increased gaps between different ilvl gear (meaning there is a bigger boost of mnd/10 ilvls than in 2.xx) means that ilvl is the most important thing.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 08-05-2015 at 09:42 PM.

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    Justin Tymes
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    Behemoth
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    It depends if you DPS or not. Eso is a straight up DPS increase over Hive. Crit doesn't make up for Mind + Weapon Damage, and Spellspeed is best on a SCH, who can take advantage of the 3.0 buffs the most.

    If you don't Cleric Stance much, you can go for something else.
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    Last edited by Wizarus; 08-05-2015 at 11:32 PM.

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    Kyani Jawantal
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Wizarus View Post
    Spellspeed is best on a SCH, who can take advantage of the 3.0 buffs the most.
    This is the exact opposite of true. Thanks to the 3.0 Scholar changes, Scholar gets the least benefit from Spellspeed of any class, including Summoner.
    1. Embrace's throughput gains less from SS, since its recast is longer than its cast time. No matter what, Scholar's healing gets less from SS than WHM and AST's as a result.
    2. Cleric Stance has a hard time gate of 5 seconds. No amount of SS will let you add a fourth action in that time.
    3. Thanks to Broil, Scholar damage is now gated by MP rather than by GCD. SS will not allow you to cast more Broils against Savage content; Piety will.

    So, where does that leave us? SS increases your DoT damage by less than Determination, and is the third-best stat at improving your chain cast heals. Every other stat (including Piety) is better than SS for those things, and it's not particularly close
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    Last edited by Kyani; 08-06-2015 at 06:48 AM.

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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
    Embrace's throughput is not affected by SS. No matter what, Scholar's healing gets less from SS than WHM and AST's.
    This is incorrect. Spell speed does affect pets.

    From the 3.0 patch notes:

    In order to receive the effects of the caster's spell speed attribute, all pet actions excluding auto-attacks have been changed to elemental damage.
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    Kyani Jawantal
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    This is incorrect. Spell speed does affect pets.

    From the 3.0 patch notes:
    I looked it up, and it looks like you're correct - it does affect her recast time, which marginally improves her time-per-heal. I had been under the impression that her recast stayed the same, because the tooltip doesn't update (and it's very difficult to notice without adding a ton of SS), but that's incorrect. I'll update to a more accurate version of the pet SS interaction.
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    Last edited by Kyani; 08-06-2015 at 06:52 AM.

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    Areku Foxfire
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    Scholar weapon sucks. Don't blindly go for it if you have the hive weapon. 83 crit is a lot, and even I can notice a difference in that.

    The way scholar works, even if you just crit a couple more times a fight, that still more than makes up for a little less mind. Weapon will be the dead last thing I buy, if I get it at all. Relic is around the corner anyway!
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    Litner Lior
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Scholar weapon sucks. Don't blindly go for it if you have the hive weapon. 83 crit is a lot, and even I can notice a difference in that.

    The way scholar works, even if you just crit a couple more times a fight, that still more than makes up for a little less mind. Weapon will be the dead last thing I buy, if I get it at all. Relic is around the corner anyway!
    This would be true if stat weights were the same as before 3.0 hit, but sadly this is not the case.
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    Ara Hoshizora
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    Putting math aside, the average player isn't goin to see a savage weapon for months. You are going to buy it eventually, why on earth would you hold out on getting it?
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    Litner Lior
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    Putting math aside, the average player isn't goin to see a savage weapon for months. You are going to buy it eventually, why on earth would you hold out on getting it?
    I believe its because players believe that getting two pieces of armor is better than getting the weapon, its more or less a question of "Is this the right purchase at this point of time?"
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