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    Miiu's Avatar
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    Shila Lail
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 90
    Sure but if you can hold onto the 5% and yet get the same constant healing benefit you'd get from the weapon, I"ll do that.
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    Last edited by Miiu; 08-05-2015 at 07:27 PM.

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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    I meat 5% extra crit total from all crit on your gear. The 90 crit on a weapon is less than 1%
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    Last edited by DarkerOrange; 08-05-2015 at 07:49 PM.

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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    IMO for SCH is is either weapon or body first, then the other one second.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Personally went for the body first since I didn't have all the shafts for the i190 one.

    If you have the Hive weapon, first eso purchase could go either way. If you don't have the Hive weapon, I'd definitely get the eso book first despite its less attractive secondaries.
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    If you have the Hive weapon, first eso purchase could go either way. If you don't have the Hive weapon, I'd definitely get the eso book first despite its less attractive secondaries.
    I agree with that, it depend where you start.
    If you have the Gogyo Sosei Kai and go for the Antiquated Elements, then you have a huge boost in stat.
    But if you start from the Hive book then the boost is not good (and you lose so much in crit)

    The eso book is good if yours is 170 or 180
    Otherwise, if you have the Hive weapon go for the Body then Hat
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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    But if you start from the Hive book then the boost is not good (and you lose so much in crit)
    I'm confused why you say the boost is minimal. The weapon damage upgrade is pretty significant even over the loss of crit. Especially if she's expected to dps in savage as scholar.
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    Corwynt Farrell
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    I'm confused why you say the boost is minimal. The weapon damage upgrade is pretty significant even over the loss of crit. Especially if she's expected to dps in savage as scholar.
    Well if you have the Hive it is +2 weapons damage and +9 mind, and If you have the 180 chest it is +15 mind. It's fairly close. Also when you factor in the crit on the weapon you get to keep (although you are going to lose it no matter what eventually, until relic) and the slight defense boost of the chest make the chest a decent first buy.

    Also @ckc22 the gordian legs have 94 crit on them and wil be bis, so if you recommend buying order I would consider that.
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    Last edited by Farrell; 08-06-2015 at 12:44 AM.

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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farrell View Post
    Also @ckc22 the gordian legs have 94 crit on them and wil be bis, so if you recommend buying order I would consider that.
    You're looking at 16+9=25 mind versus +15 mind from the chest, assuming 1 wd=8 mind.
    The numbers are actually higher if you go by the strat weights others are throwing out of 20+9=29 with 1 point wd=10 mind. Personally I find that more significant than the crit you lose.

    It is interesting, you are the only person who mentions the legs. I think there are 100 of these threads on reddit all asking about the chest but not legs. They will be bis which makes me wonder how many of these threads are asthetically driven.
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    Last edited by PetiteMalFleur; 08-06-2015 at 01:53 AM.

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    Tetsu Taru
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Farrell View Post
    Well if you have the Hive it is +2 weapons damage and +9 mind, and If you have the 180 chest it is +15 mind. It's fairly close. Also when you factor in the crit on the weapon you get to keep (although you are going to lose it no matter what eventually, until relic) and the slight defense boost of the chest make the chest a decent first buy.

    Also @ckc22 the gordian legs have 94 crit on them and wil be bis, so if you recommend buying order I would consider that.
    First off wd is estimated at close to 10 of a primary stat so the weapon is almost double the chest piece.

    Second I included a qualifier that said assuming no alex gear - obviously obtaining BiS by mixing and matching with savage gear will change things up a bit but it's too individualized to fit in the context of what my post was trying to get at.
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    As always ^ this man speaks sense, haha.
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