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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    You misunderstand what he means. What he means is they didnt really any recipes. Hes not incorrect with that. Crp and bsm has no 1* crafts. '
    Yeah they could have done a better job with the distribution of crafts. All they really needed to do was label the level 60 mainhands and offhands as 1 star (and raise their difficulty to match) and likewise for the new crafting/gathering accessories for CRP.

    The thing which is really missing is the forager i170 set. Which IS a very big problem because foragers no longer have anything to buy from crafters after getting their 1 star set. I concur they should have the option to grind red scrips OR buy crafted gear. The lack of crafted gear screws up the economy.
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    Anima Soulcleanser
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    Just curious as to what people think about the fact that virtually everyone either absolutely hates the system (have even canceled accounts) , and the rest "are not big fans" or shall we just say "don't like" the entire system. Let us look at the response we got..... we got a patch that was designed to basically shut people up by making the mere acquisition of scrips cheaper. hey, how about the fact that the system is either hated or disliked by, well we could say everyone cause I haven't seen one post or person commenting otherwise. What should paying customers expect then, insofar as the 'system" aside from the fact that they took everything you've done (specifically in crafting and gathering) and rendered it useless ?

    Is it even responsible for SE to not completely change it ? They are certainly aware they did something that is damaging if not destroying many paying customer's game play experience. Is it ok then, that they force this down the throats of their clientele to our extreme displeasure ? I suppose that ol' free market economy lover would say buyer beware, cancel account...... is that ultimately the answer? we either go along or cancel.......OR should SE flat out admit they have to change it? just wondering what the opinions are on that.
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    Valix Montblanc
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaS View Post
    I suppose that ol' free market economy lover would say buyer beware, cancel account...... is that ultimately the answer? we either go along or cancel
    I don't know if that makes you an Free market economy lover, I think that's just common sense?, you are not subscribed to every subscription service in existence you pick and choose the ones that fit your desires (we see this all the time in the cable television space, people subscribe and unsubscribe as the types of shows they like come on and off television), you should constantly be evaluating if the enjoyment you receive from something is worth your money and I think the expectation that a dynamic experience like an MMO should always make you happy will set people up to be disappointed - This is from both perspectives they will surely make changes that won't always be targeted for you and at the same time You, yourself will change with time and the things you want from the experience will change ( we see this all the time with raiders needing to take breaks from a structured play time etc).

    This is not to say I think it is wrong to lament or be sad when you come to face this decision, but just to say be weary of your own expectations so that we ourselves don't become the source of our own disappointment.
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    Last edited by Alysrea; 08-08-2015 at 10:59 AM.

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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaS View Post
    Just curious as to what people think about the fact that virtually everyone.
    I'm more curious at why you think less than 1% of the population of the game being vocally against it constitutes 'virtually everyone'.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    I'm just sitting on my weekly tokens. Not sure what I want to do yet. There's no real carrot out there other than "ooo, pretty gear." It isn't like I need this to craft anything players want. And if they DID want 2-star adventuring gear, good luck finding someone willing to pay tens of millions of gear for something many iLvl below raid gear.

    Some might have considered accessories... IF Tier V materia was available via spiritbonding.
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    I concur with your general summary Kaelie. Not everything HAS to happen in my lists. But most need to be considered in a developer meeting. They are missing some key economy things which cannot be overlooked IMO. And as you said the biggest gate right now is the number of rare gathered tokens required. Even if they fix that part though the economy is going to be a mess till other adjustments are made.

    Also I agree I could live with 9 tokens a week... but what a crappy low gate IMO.
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Raiden
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    This is what happens when you want to eliminate competition and do absolutely nothing *but* craft.
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    Yumi Umi
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    AnimaS is like squidward, first u think he's always being the sour puss but after a few good reads it seems like he is the only one logically thinking.
    But regardless i will just craft my last few pieces of my 2 star bsm set and call it a day. I refuse to grind anymore favors after that.

    At least i played in SE's dumb crafting system so yea i've been there done that kind of feeling vs the ppl who actually haven't even attempted crafting any 2 stars lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    AnimaS is like squidward, first u think he's always being the sour puss but after a few good reads it seems like he is the only one logically thinking.
    But regardless i will just craft my last few pieces of my 2 star bsm set and call it a day. I refuse to grind anymore favors after that.

    At least i played in SE's dumb crafting system so yea i've been there done that kind of feeling vs the ppl who actually haven't even attempted crafting any 2 stars lmao.
    No, he's being a sourpuss.

    He just seems to agree with you, that's why you think it's logical. Echo chamber and all that.

    -Logically speaking- it's still too early to say one way or the other. Have to wait until the next patch and then he and the others can be vindicated.
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    Tsaladai Moks
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    Diabolos
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    Botanist Lv 28
    I'm a casual omni-crafter. I mainly craft for self, alt gearing, helping others out. I took one look at scripts and decided not to pursue them yet, even blues.

    Why? I craft to make useful things, not win a craft/gather/auction money making game. What things? I am to spend HOW much of my time to make, what?

    I do not understand what the system is supposed to achieve other than to let craft-only people grind into oblivion while gating them in an MMO-like bid to keep them here. The only winning move is not to play, from my view.
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    Last edited by Hechicera; 08-09-2015 at 08:19 AM. Reason: grammer

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