How many of us can be bothered with the endgame crafting

[Sibyll]

Now, the crafted gear is 30 item levels below the i210 raid gear/best upgraded tomestone gear, and incredibly more difficult to procure than the low-end tomestone gear, heavily devaluing it.

It doesn't help that you'd need a decent supply of tier V materia to get an appreciable amount of stats out of the gear pieces, which we currently do not have a cost efficient way of acquiring.

The thing I don't get is the convoluted design. They could've just made the crafting mats (puri coke, dryad sap etc.) cost 2 Red Rowena Gathering Tokens and 1 Red Rowena Crafting Token (3 for HQ) and achieved the same effect without the tedious grind. I mean, you could maybe argue it was designed this way to increase supply of materials from the associated level 60 nodes but I generally find myself harvesting crystals instead of Citrite and Dandelions.

[Hanmerreborn]

I dont mind the grind so much, but its a crying shame that all the craftable i180 Battle gear is dead on arrival. If the craftable items was actually worth crafting, there would be more incentive to farm favors. As 2* master crafter myself, i wouldnt even waste my time crafting a single piece of i180 battle gear. Why? For glam?

The glam is the same as the 150, which is infinitely easier to make than the 180

[Irving]

It doesn't help that you'd need a decent supply of tier V materia to get an appreciable amount of stats out of the gear pieces, which we currently do not have a cost efficient way of acquiring.

Speaking of Tier V Materia, has there been any word AT ALL about this? The entirety of getting these pieces of gear and praying to god you get any Tier V from transmutation (or paying a fortune) so you can put the guaranteed slots to use is really horrible.

[Alahra]

It doesn't help that you'd need a decent supply of tier V materia to get an appreciable amount of stats out of the gear pieces, which we currently do not have a cost efficient way of acquiring.

The thing I don't get is the convoluted design. They could've just made the crafting mats (puri coke, dryad sap etc.) cost 2 Red Rowena Gathering Tokens and 1 Red Rowena Crafting Token (3 for HQ) and achieved the same effect without the tedious grind. I mean, you could maybe argue it was designed this way to increase supply of materials from the associated level 60 nodes but I generally find myself harvesting crystals instead of Citrite and Dandelions.

It's convoluted enough that every time I get the crafting itch and think "Maybe I'll give it a try," I look at the requirements to get the mats and shrug and give up again. As a main ALC, I can't even be sure anyone will buy any Grade 2 Dissolvents, which makes it incredibly hard to justify the effort.

[Sibyll]

It's convoluted enough that every time I get the crafting itch and think "Maybe I'll give it a try," I look at the requirements to get the mats and shrug and give up again. As a main ALC, I can't even be sure anyone will buy any Grade 2 Dissolvents, which makes it incredibly hard to justify the effort.

They should've just made the Grade 1/2 Dissolvents a single material, like terminus putty was, then they could've applied it to non-combat classes too. Making 5 different versions of effectively the same thing splits the market up too much. Alchemy is one of my specialists as well and it's the most useless currently because no one will buy the overpriced i180 gear, at least not for a price that makes it worth crafting.

I'd like to craft, but there are so many other things I'd rather do than gather nodes for 5 hrs.

[Alahra]

I'd like to craft, but there are so many other things I'd rather do than gather nodes for 5 hrs.

I may have BTN to 50 but I can't really stand gathering here. It just doesn't appeal to me. I love the crafting system, but with things as they currently are, I can't enjoy it at all. I'm actually playing a lot less these days--I had no idea how much time I used to fill crafting when I was done with Roulettes and the like until HW hit and I had no more satisfying incentives to craft.

[Sibyll]

I may have BTN to 50 but I can't really stand gathering here. It just doesn't appeal to me. I love the crafting system, but with things as they currently are, I can't enjoy it at all. I'm actually playing a lot less these days--I had no idea how much time I used to fill crafting when I was done with Roulettes and the like until HW hit and I had no more satisfying incentives to craft.

It'd be one thing if the Favors were a mini-game that required thought. But it isn't. It's on par with mining shards.

[Ksenia]

It'd be one thing if the Favors were a mini-game that required thought. But it isn't. It's on par with mining shards.

That's the trouble with all the time sinks in this game. They are blatant and obviously aimed at making the game as cumbersome as possible to buy development time. It's why I stay one patch behind them in progression.

[Sibyll]

That's the trouble with all the time sinks in this game. They are blatant and obviously aimed at making the game as cumbersome as possible to buy development time. It's why I stay one patch behind them in progression.

I didn't finish my relic until around FCoB for a similar reason. Problem with crafting is it's only profitable for the first 2 weeks or so before everyone that can afford it has bought it, as it's all glamours. They may as well just dump crafting if they are going to make it a pointless time sink. I mean it's not like crafting has any meaningful impact on the game outside of food and potions.

[Nomad-phx]

I counted up what it would take to make a i180 tank/drg body and was blown completely awawy: 92 total favor items and 10 red crafter tokens? Really? Till now I've only paid attention to the 170 crafter gear but this? Just no lol I officially renounce my defense of the favor system as all that work would be worth it if ilvl was on par but its faaaaaaaaaaarrrrrr from it.