How many of us can be bothered with the endgame crafting

[Alahra]

I'd like to craft, but there are so many other things I'd rather do than gather nodes for 5 hrs.

I may have BTN to 50 but I can't really stand gathering here. It just doesn't appeal to me. I love the crafting system, but with things as they currently are, I can't enjoy it at all. I'm actually playing a lot less these days--I had no idea how much time I used to fill crafting when I was done with Roulettes and the like until HW hit and I had no more satisfying incentives to craft.

[Sibyll]

I may have BTN to 50 but I can't really stand gathering here. It just doesn't appeal to me. I love the crafting system, but with things as they currently are, I can't enjoy it at all. I'm actually playing a lot less these days--I had no idea how much time I used to fill crafting when I was done with Roulettes and the like until HW hit and I had no more satisfying incentives to craft.

It'd be one thing if the Favors were a mini-game that required thought. But it isn't. It's on par with mining shards.

[Ksenia]

It'd be one thing if the Favors were a mini-game that required thought. But it isn't. It's on par with mining shards.

That's the trouble with all the time sinks in this game. They are blatant and obviously aimed at making the game as cumbersome as possible to buy development time. It's why I stay one patch behind them in progression.

[Sibyll]

That's the trouble with all the time sinks in this game. They are blatant and obviously aimed at making the game as cumbersome as possible to buy development time. It's why I stay one patch behind them in progression.

I didn't finish my relic until around FCoB for a similar reason. Problem with crafting is it's only profitable for the first 2 weeks or so before everyone that can afford it has bought it, as it's all glamours. They may as well just dump crafting if they are going to make it a pointless time sink. I mean it's not like crafting has any meaningful impact on the game outside of food and potions.

[Ksenia]

I didn't finish my relic until around FCoB for a similar reason. Problem with crafting is it's only profitable for the first 2 weeks or so before everyone that can afford it has bought it, as it's all glamours. They may as well just dump crafting if they are going to make it a pointless time sink. I mean it's not like crafting has any meaningful impact on the game outside of food and potions.

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I never used crafting as a tool of wealth. My wallet is 1.6 mill gil right now. With that said, I can't afford crafting. It would take me a million gil to fit NQ 51 gear, universal with main and off hands for the 8 classes. For 2 levels of grind? It isn't over priced, it's brutally hard to get mats even in the intro level for crafting. Same for gathering and in both cases I rolled over them. I'm no place close to HW, still chewing at the neglected MSQ, just doing dailies in GC and my gathering is 54 miner, 52, Botany, 54 Fishing. All my crafts are at 51 except Arm and Bsm and they are one turn in away from 51. (turning in cobalt stuff) By the time I get to where I can even gather in HW my gathering and crafting will be 55+
They shot their own feet off with the system they put in place. In order for me to craft I literally have to do everything else in the game first. I paid a year this time, it will get done but I will miss out on a lot because the entire game is now a means to an end. Something I never had to deal with in this game.

My to do list before I can red script:

Get desynth up: I need too many Demi III's to buy them, for the master II books in even one class, forget 8.
Complete MSQ to 60, unlock HW map. I need to get a second DoW/ DoM up to 51 along side my Whm so I'm not burning off exper in all the quests.

Complete all quests in all 8 crafting classes. (I've only done 3 so far)
Leveling gathering? I won't need to try, it will be done long before I ever complete the other stuff.
Leveling crafts to 60? Not an issue, for the same reason as Gathering.

Ksenia the Weaver is going to be Ksenia the Omni character in all aspects before she ever sees red script for any class. And they are trying to get me to spec? How again?