How many of us can be bothered with the endgame crafting

[Kenji1134]

Simple.

Endgame Raiding involves working with multiple people to clear usually well designed, engaging, challenging content, which provides gear that is useful for the subsequent more challenging content.

Endgame Crafting/Gathering in involves working with yourself (and your mouse, and your free hand if you're bored), to perform mindlessly simple repetitive content which is often time gated on an hourly and weekly scale, which provides the "opportunity" to have a chance to obtain gear which is useful for... nothing... because the mindless repetitive grinding and 5 minutes of crafting you did to obtain this gear is already the very pinnacle of your available content.

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useful for... nothing...

the crafted dd gear sells for 50-100m per piece, I would call it usefull for my pocket and raiders also seem to need it badly for a3 + 4s, else they wouldnt pay such amounts

[scarebearz]

I cant understand why everyone likes hard endgame raiding, which consumes endless amounts of time to clear, but fears "hard" crafting/gathering content

What is "hard" about it though? The only "hard" part if the time required to gather favors and the weekly lockout.

the 2 star crafts are meant to be something very exclusive and special, like alex savage weapons and I dont know anyone who tries to attempt a3 or a4s without crafted 180 gear

I don't think i180 crafted gear is exactly that special stat wise? Most have full i190 left side now and it's a minor upgrade from that if very well melded and HP not needed.

We are both on Odin and there are probably close to a dozen groups on a3s now, most groups don't even have a single piece of i180 crafted among them. xD

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What is "hard" about it though? The only "hard" part if the time required to gather favors and the weekly lockout.



I don't think i180 crafted gear is exactly that special stat wise? Most have full i190 left side now and it's a minor upgrade from that if very well melded and HP not needed.

We are both on Odin and there are probably close to a dozen groups on a3s now, most groups don't even have a single piece of i180 crafted among them. xD

and they all badly enrage wipe at 7-8% and start getting several crafted pieces which are BiS for them. You just crafted a Ninja armor which cost 100m in mats for that person :s

[scarebearz]

and they all badly enrage wipe at 7-8% and start getting several crafted pieces which are BiS for them. You just crafted a Ninja armor which cost 100m in mats for that person :s

It was around 30-35mil in mats and that was 1 item for 1 player ^^

The thing is these crafts are a small upgrade and should be a lot more accessable.

[Katlyna]

The thing is these crafts are a small upgrade and should be a lot more accessable.

Exactly. And now that adventures aren't selling raid drop material on the market how are they going to afford our two star gear? They won't be able to. They will never be able to pay for the gear at its current cost in time and resources.

[Mature]

No offense but some people are so OVEr dramatic. "Quitting" (telling people you quitting is not gonna make others do or take your complaint seriously) the game cause you dissatisfied with a couple of FIXABLE things? That's just being pure CHILDISH.

Yes , crafting is there but RIGHT NOW there's not much to it but glamours. People keep forgetting the game just came out over a month and a bit and you expect that everything should out on day 1? I HONESTLY feel that crafting will get what we waiting for around 3.1 so right now we are gearing classes.

At the end of the day SE and Yoship DO listen to us and make things happen. Just look at Alex loot and the adjustment to red scrips. Is not like they don't do anything nor listen to us. But saying you quit the Game, how can anyone take you seriously? I wouldn't. Just GIVE IT TIME.

[Iromi]

To above poster, no. We have given time. I think two years is enough.

My bf, friends and I have all quit. I agree with most of this posts in here, crafting gear is useless and the grind is boring and ridiculous.

I could go on and on but I'll just stop here. People already expressed how I feel in this thread.

[AnimaS]

As I've said earlier, this was intentional. The system isn't broken by error, it was destroyed. SE simply did not put crafter recipes for post 60 in their first expansion. It's an awful thing to do to all us who spend countless hours (re)gearing our 8 crafters , melding, and everything else that led us to this point..

The expansion was touted as a massive change, truth be told.... it is a gimmick for SE to cash in on those who invested time and needed to continue...


Hours of eye candy and leveling to 60, the story line and now, Alexander... Crafting was not addressed so they decided to halt the system till they are good and ready to develop content for crafters. I see it as pure subscription profit (the entire expansion) given the fact that upon reaching Master of the Hand there are virtually ** NO ** recipes that are usable or profitable. Did you want to craft for the pure enjoyment of the crafting system too? SE's answer is TOO BAD. Crafting was not on our deadline priority list, now use this absolutely ridiculous, time devouring red scrip system to gear up for 6 (give or take) months because we are not ready to develop recipes yet. Want to craft now? get 500 Million Gil and craft a few items.


The patch is simply a plot to divert the attention of gullible people, who mean well but did not experience the functional system that was at it's peak in 2.4.. The conclusion of the red scrip exchange is already known so I don't have to explain in detail how outright ridiculous it is and obvious it was created to stall out crafters till they are ready to add recipes.


I'm reminded of an old and famous newspaper headline from the 70's during a financial crisis.... [Gerold] Ford to N.Y: DROP DEAD

SE to Crafters: Drop Dead

[Ranzan]

No offense but offending...

But that the thing they haven't fix anything or they haven't explained why they made this asinine system. If it was fixable why not fix it? This was some people main reason playing on this game and now lock to and system that dont make much since other than to keep you sub. It should not take me 11+ hours to GATHER mats just to make 1 piece of gear that may or may not HQ that only take 10 minutes tops to craft. Why should give it time if 1 maintenance is all they need to fix or remove this system?