How many of us can be bothered with the endgame crafting

[scarebearz]

I cant understand why everyone likes hard endgame raiding, which consumes endless amounts of time to clear, but fears "hard" crafting/gathering content

What is "hard" about it though? The only "hard" part if the time required to gather favors and the weekly lockout.

the 2 star crafts are meant to be something very exclusive and special, like alex savage weapons and I dont know anyone who tries to attempt a3 or a4s without crafted 180 gear

I don't think i180 crafted gear is exactly that special stat wise? Most have full i190 left side now and it's a minor upgrade from that if very well melded and HP not needed.

We are both on Odin and there are probably close to a dozen groups on a3s now, most groups don't even have a single piece of i180 crafted among them. xD

[ServerCollaps]

What is "hard" about it though? The only "hard" part if the time required to gather favors and the weekly lockout.



I don't think i180 crafted gear is exactly that special stat wise? Most have full i190 left side now and it's a minor upgrade from that if very well melded and HP not needed.

We are both on Odin and there are probably close to a dozen groups on a3s now, most groups don't even have a single piece of i180 crafted among them. xD

and they all badly enrage wipe at 7-8% and start getting several crafted pieces which are BiS for them. You just crafted a Ninja armor which cost 100m in mats for that person :s

[scarebearz]

and they all badly enrage wipe at 7-8% and start getting several crafted pieces which are BiS for them. You just crafted a Ninja armor which cost 100m in mats for that person :s

It was around 30-35mil in mats and that was 1 item for 1 player ^^

The thing is these crafts are a small upgrade and should be a lot more accessable.

[Katlyna]

The thing is these crafts are a small upgrade and should be a lot more accessable.

Exactly. And now that adventures aren't selling raid drop material on the market how are they going to afford our two star gear? They won't be able to. They will never be able to pay for the gear at its current cost in time and resources.

[Kenji1134]

Simple.

Endgame Raiding involves working with multiple people to clear usually well designed, engaging, challenging content, which provides gear that is useful for the subsequent more challenging content.

Endgame Crafting/Gathering in involves working with yourself (and your mouse, and your free hand if you're bored), to perform mindlessly simple repetitive content which is often time gated on an hourly and weekly scale, which provides the "opportunity" to have a chance to obtain gear which is useful for... nothing... because the mindless repetitive grinding and 5 minutes of crafting you did to obtain this gear is already the very pinnacle of your available content.

[ServerCollaps]

useful for... nothing...

the crafted dd gear sells for 50-100m per piece, I would call it usefull for my pocket and raiders also seem to need it badly for a3 + 4s, else they wouldnt pay such amounts

[Mature]

No offense but some people are so OVEr dramatic. "Quitting" (telling people you quitting is not gonna make others do or take your complaint seriously) the game cause you dissatisfied with a couple of FIXABLE things? That's just being pure CHILDISH.

Yes , crafting is there but RIGHT NOW there's not much to it but glamours. People keep forgetting the game just came out over a month and a bit and you expect that everything should out on day 1? I HONESTLY feel that crafting will get what we waiting for around 3.1 so right now we are gearing classes.

At the end of the day SE and Yoship DO listen to us and make things happen. Just look at Alex loot and the adjustment to red scrips. Is not like they don't do anything nor listen to us. But saying you quit the Game, how can anyone take you seriously? I wouldn't. Just GIVE IT TIME.

[Ranzan]

No offense but offending...

But that the thing they haven't fix anything or they haven't explained why they made this asinine system. If it was fixable why not fix it? This was some people main reason playing on this game and now lock to and system that dont make much since other than to keep you sub. It should not take me 11+ hours to GATHER mats just to make 1 piece of gear that may or may not HQ that only take 10 minutes tops to craft. Why should give it time if 1 maintenance is all they need to fix or remove this system?

[JoolzS]

Crafting and gathering was fun for me in 2.x (even the grind to get the Lucis and Masterbooks), but in 3.x it is zero fun. My sub runs out in September and I've cancelled the auto-renew on it. I don't raid, don't even like dungeons much, so the game for me was the crafting and gathering which they seem to want to kill off. Makes me sad, but on a positive note, since HW dropped my flat is tidier than it's been in two years!

I'm going to miss the lovely friends Ive made in the game as I am unlikely to keep in touch with any of them outside of the game. I'm older than most of them by *decades* so the main thing I have in common with them is the game.

I might resub in a patch or two, if there are some major changes.

[reefer69]

I am not good with raiding and my desire to make statics over and over was never present so i divulged into crafting. To be able to craft i had to mine and garden to keep my gil supply up to lvl all my crafts. after i found a new step which was using my time to craft and now buy mats off the market board to keep the flow of gil in the economy flowing and my crafts profitable because trying to do both crafting and mining is a huge task even before expansion.
I like many went of us who went into the task of multi-melding individual pieces, then artisan came and we had to remeld again. all this time ppl want you to craft for them and pay next to nothing and also asking y do u need all that gil. its funny ppl dont think u can look at history of items and see they spent 500k for items for you to craft yet scoff when u say 100k for the craft. my point here is crafting is not cheap and ppl who gather also request gil for their time and mats just like us.