Job Personalization: Can I Have It?

[DreadRabbit]

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...Fate mechanics are too forgiving...but you hate how unforgiving raids are? o_O You're literally describing raids and how raiding works in WoW: you change your spec/skill tree and what gear you wear to match the fight you're about to go into. Yet you despise WoW and don't want FF14 to be a WoW clone.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of raiding either but it has nothing to do with the fights themselves, for me it's more the stress people seem to want to bring to it.

Editing here because I've reached my post limit for the day:

I never said I was against difficulty.

My suggestions of non-"punish the whole group for the failings of a few" group content (instead just punish the player that screwed up) is meant to reduce toxicity, it was never meant to be easy. (and yes I read your edit, Bishop)

So we're back to square one with this particular conversation in this thread: this is a community problem. You also don't deny that you're advocating for a WoW-like progression system, claiming FF14 doesn't already have it, after having ranted that FF14 is too much like WoW and getting more and more like it. (And I have to disagree with the Bloodborne thing. That's a matter of personal preference, that's not a fact. For me an RPG is about playing through a storyline, since every game genre has the armor and skill customization you're talking about. But that's also my opinion, it's not a fact).

It was good talking to you, Bishop. It honestly was because I feel we hit upon some good ideas. But I think we're at that point where if you and I personally continue this part of the chat we're just going to continue running in circles.

Cross class skills were never that flexible in 2.0, except for the odd DPS MRD or Tanking LNC. Definitely not with jobs.

And that's where I disagree. I've had multiple experiences where cross class skills have enabled me to step outside my typical role in the middle of the fight. Now I'll admit not every class might have that flexibility and that is an issue that needs to be addressed.

And with that I peace out of this thread. Good luck all.