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    Asierid's Avatar
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    Saerin Zei
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    Marauder Lv 60
    You can customize your character now.

    Why not remove your stone, be a Lancer, and cross class Skull Sunder and Cure?

    That's what you want, right?

    Illusion of choice.
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    Cole Evyx
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    You can customize your character now.

    Why not remove your stone, be a Lancer, and cross class Skull Sunder and Cure?

    That's what you want, right?

    Illusion of choice.
    There is no choice, those are called unviable.

    No one would take a cure that heals for 50 damage into an endgame raid like even NORMAL alexander, even there that'd be a joke. HOWEVER if it healed appropriately and scaled properly with other classes it wouldn't be such a big issue at all, look at Paladin's Clemency. That is FAR from a bad ability.

    The problem is 100% scaling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    There is no choice, those are called unviable.

    No one would take a cure that heals for 50 damage into an endgame raid like even NORMAL alexander, even there that'd be a joke. HOWEVER if it healed appropriately and scaled properly with other classes it wouldn't be such a big issue at all, look at Paladin's Clemency. That is FAR from a bad ability.

    The problem is 100% scaling.
    And what do you expect to get from this system being proposed? 90% of these abilities would be useless/underpowered and there will be an optimal build. There is always an optimal build. Why take someone who has anything less?

    XI did it, there were optimal builds and you used those builds. Guild Wars, the same. RIFT, the same.

    List goes on.


    Not to mention Clemency gets three-ish casts off before out of MP, and the interruptions. It isn't bad by any means, but it isn't great either.
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    There is no choice, those are called unviable.

    No one would take a cure that heals for 50 damage into an endgame raid like even NORMAL alexander, even there that'd be a joke. HOWEVER if it healed appropriately and scaled properly with other classes it wouldn't be such a big issue at all, look at Paladin's Clemency. That is FAR from a bad ability.

    The problem is 100% scaling.
    That leads into the issue of Balance though. The more 'diversity' in builds and available skills the more time needs to be spent trying to balance all those available builds. And Balance does matter both from a gameplay perspective and to players. Just look at how many people are unhappy with AST at the moment.

    There is a time/resource investment issue here too. The more stuff like this they add the more time managing and developing Jobs takes. This grows dramatically the more Jobs they add. There is a trade off. If they added something like this then we would be looking at time taken away from other things. I'd prefer three new Jobs over one that had some variable stat and ability features.

    Particularly since in the end the vast bulk of people will end up favouring the 'optimal' build and most variety will go to waste.
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