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  1. #21
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    Mwynn's Avatar
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    Dio'orsa Pulse
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kret View Post
    people cant handle clear cut this is the best rotation do it jobs...... you really want to give this sea of derps custimization? *shutters*
    You'd be surprised, Diablo 3 Community is exactly like the FFXIV Community when it comes to gearing out Characters or optimal Skill Usage.

    Restricted Jobs are well... uh, there is only one best Rotation and everyone focuses on it...

    I would be happy to have a Spell Speed Mage with the Ability to have enough Movement or a Heavy Damage Dealing Mage with slowed Movement. *Does look at Nexus System from FFXIII*
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    Last edited by Mwynn; 08-05-2015 at 05:12 AM.

  2. #22
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    Kietsu's Avatar
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    Kyett Corbeau
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    But you do have customization, through cross-class skills.
    Notice how the five you have equipped right now are the best for your class?

    Yeah, that's the illusion of choice.
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  3. #23
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    you can play everything on one character so for me i look at it as job=talent/skill tress

    plus i wouldnt want this to be turned into FFXI....dragoon, pup any1? the best tho was tank nin or gtfo ><
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  4. #24
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    saber_alter's Avatar
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    Character
    Lyrre Myste
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    All the "weak" arguments are major faults in skill trees.
    It will always boil down to the most optimal builds and class which Yoshi-P doesn't want.
    already happens here. it's just dumbed down because everyone is the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kret View Post
    people cant handle clear cut this is the best rotation do it jobs...... you really want to give this sea of derps custimization? *shutters*
    rotation=/=customization. you can make an optimal setup for a job that most people will fall into, and that requires no skill (outside of arithmetic). rotations are similar, but actually require execution to function properly.
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  5. #25
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Character
    Etoile Kallera
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kietsu View Post
    But you do have customization, through cross-class skills.
    Notice how the five you have equipped right now are the best for your class?

    Yeah, that's the illusion of choice.
    I have 4"selected", and "use" 3. and jobs are designed to be set into a role, which isn't the same sort of customization. that also doesn't go into how classes operate.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 08-05-2015 at 06:22 AM.

  6. #26
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    Asierid's Avatar
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    Character
    Saerin Zei
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    You can customize your character now.

    Why not remove your stone, be a Lancer, and cross class Skull Sunder and Cure?

    That's what you want, right?

    Illusion of choice.
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  7. #27
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    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
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    Character
    Rosenthal Hogire
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    inb4 someone says that thing about optimal builds and . . . I'm too late aren't I.

    Either way, I support more customization.
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  8. #28
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Character
    Crystal Rainbow
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Never really works.

    Community finds best build.
    If you build anything other then best build. You get shit on.
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  9. #29
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    Character
    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    It feels unnecessary to me. Then again, I don't think FF14 is in a rut and even if it was I don't think skill trees would do anything to solve it.

    As it is one character can have over ten different 'specs' in combat that they can quite easily switch between all with reasonably diverse play styles. The fact that someone else shares a Job and has the same mechanics really doesn't bother me at all. Even with skill trees you wouldn't be a unique snowflake.

    Simply put I think it would be a waste of resources. I'd prefer new Jobs with new mechanics and play styles to talent trees and the people who would be working on those Jobs would have to be spending time on talent trees instead if they were added to the game.
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  10. #30
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    Doranaux Wavemet
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    I find FFXIV's greatest weakness is the lack of anything in gameplay to differentiate us from one another. This could be solved with more interesting and varied stats ("Oh, you're a splash damage paladin? Neat, that must help with big groups. My shield gets me a little bit of that, but mostly I've been trying to collect counter attack gear.") but if stats must stay as they are, something along the lines of the OP's suggestions could go a long way toward making FFXIV more engaging.
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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