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    Quote Originally Posted by LandricFrey View Post
    People complain about needing nerfs and buffs now, that kind of thing is always present. If this was a serious PVP game, I'd agree.

    With the addition of the three jobs with no class, I was hoping SE was axing the cross-class system for something better. Nope, still here, still useless, and still fodder for people to argue what job customization looks like. It's really the only game with the system in it that I don't like.
    LOL. Removing it won't stop people from asking for customization.

    Go ahead, clone WoW more. Clone it all the way to the grave. Assuming the same rate of decline, FFXIV will die first before WoW given it's much smaller userbase - remember it's 4 million registered accounts, not active accounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    LOL. Removing it won't stop people from asking for customization.

    Go ahead, clone WoW more. Clone it all the way to the grave. Assuming the same rate of decline, FFXIV will die first before WoW given it's much smaller userbase - remember it's 4 million registered accounts, not active accounts.
    I'm all for your idea, if it weren't obvious they are moving away from cross-class system. It's what's left of 1.0 where you could cross-class just about any skill. Since they seem to be moving away from it, I'd like some meaningful customization to replace it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    LOL. Removing it won't stop people from asking for customization.

    Go ahead, clone WoW more. Clone it all the way to the grave. Assuming the same rate of decline, FFXIV will die first before WoW given it's much smaller userbase - remember it's 4 million registered accounts, not active accounts.

    This is funny...specially considering that WoW has talent/skill trees and set bonuses on gear and greater customization.....didnt know that even not having something from WoW made an MMORPG a WoW clone


    you say FFXIV is a WoW clone and yet all you ask for are stuff from WoW
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    Last edited by Erepio; 08-06-2015 at 10:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandricFrey View Post
    People complain about needing nerfs and buffs now, that kind of thing is always present. If this was a serious PVP game, I'd agree.
    This isn't something that applies only to PVP. balance is important to PvE too, even when soloing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Go ahead, clone WoW more. Clone it all the way to the grave. Assuming the same rate of decline, FFXIV will die first before WoW given it's much smaller userbase - remember it's 4 million registered accounts, not active accounts.
    Always funny when something people don't like is "cloned from WoW". Making FFXIV an unbalanced mess won't suddenly make it a better game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Lol, getting tomestones is now "hypercompetitive atmosphere of raiding"?

    Only Alexander Savage is truly hard, just like only Coil was truly hard before it.
    I still have to deal with "hypercompetitive" raiders in the like of Expert and DF-Alex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erepio View Post
    yeah let them use the system they effectively are removing from the game lol, so ur plan is to exclude the 3 new jobs (and basicly every new job from now on) from open world content and a big part of "character progression"?

    not to mention existing jobs like scholar will also get screwed over since the class is a dps while their job is healer
    So? Just because they are removing it due to YoshiP's love of WoW and raiding tunnel vision, doesn't mean it can't be good with a few changes.

    Jobs are for raiding. You can "progress" through raids if you insist on using a Job. Hey, they told me to use a Job if I wanted to raid, don't see anything wrong with me demanding you use a Class if you want to kill those new mobs.

    If you really like the fairies that much, no harm asking SE to recolor one for use by ACN with abilities geared toward open world play.

    the balancing of the new skills will also be a nightmare and u will have ppl wanting you to have specific skills in order to let you in parties that go up against this new mobs you talk about


    you make it sound like balancing is done for raiders and the "toxicity" is only in raids, guess what its not, ppl will want you to be in a specific set up, be it gear or skills, even in open world just look at FFXI..heck most of the time, from experience, the "hardcore" raiders are the laid back ppl and the ones wanting u to be in laughable high ilvl are the ppl the are plain bad or ignorant
    You won't need to party. You can kill any of the new mobs solo with the right skill loadout and gear. Grouping is 100% optional (and non-obligatory) - nice if someone wants to help you out; no big deal if they don't. That's the beauty of it.

    I'm not trying to recreate FFXI - never played it.
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 08-06-2015 at 09:57 PM.

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    This has been previously answer. No. It's a waste of time. A waste of Development Time to create and maintain paths that are non-optimal for the job, and waste of players time who wind up ignoring the majority of these trees for whatever is optimal.

    This matter was closed years ago. Raising the argument again does nothing but be annoying. You're asking them to change a cornerstone of the game (read, a mountain of work) for no feasible gain (Content ultimately gets ignored).

    Given the retentive level of effort put into keeping old content active in this game - I would say an endeavor that forces you to choose to ignore part of its content for the benefit of the other is not a route SE will ever take.
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    I prefer distinctive jobs rather than what is being proposed here. Its been done before in many games and involves constant painful balancing
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    Ah yes. Nothing like the smell of Chicken Little droppings in the morning. Oh damn, the sky is falling! FFXIV will die if a select few's desires aren't met! Oh me, oh my! Everyone quick! Build an ark! The world is ending because the Starbucks by my house didn't make me my grande triple frothy mochaccino with chocolate shavings! Starbucks is going to go bankrupt now!
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    The idea isn't so much about different specs for the same role, say Dark Knight tank. But a spec where a Dark Knight turns into a DPS. Or Ninja turns into a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaptainpancake69 View Post
    The idea isn't so much about different specs for the same role, say Dark Knight tank. But a spec where a Dark Knight turns into a DPS. Or Ninja turns into a tank.
    We already have those specs, it's called equipping a different weapon to change to an actual tank or DPS. Players aren't locked into a single job in this game.
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