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    The Red Scrip Fix doesn't help much.

    Square, please take a look at the main problem people are having. It was never the slow rate of obtaining red scrips, it was the scarity of materials and the favor system. It still takes 11 hours of 100% RNG based gathering to use up a weeks supply of favors which is far too much time, not only that but the fact that it relies on RNG doesn't really work well and even when you're lucky enough to get a concealed node you only get 1 material. The cost of gear is also still too high.

    Here's what we, the community would like to see in a hotfix 1 week (11th August) from now:

    Instead of 1 Red Gatherers Token giving you 5 favors, have 1 Blue Gatherers Token give you 1 favor.

    Significantly increase the spawn rate of concealed nodes.

    Instead of the mats such as Moonbeam Silk requiring 1 Red Crafters Token, change it to require 1 Blue Crafter's Token. HQ versions should require 3 Blue Crafters Token instead of 3 Red Crafters Token.

    Instead of the mats such as Moonbeam Silk requiring 10 Ooids and 10 plants, change it to 3 of each. For HQ versions, change it from 3 to 1.

    Halve the cost of all red scrip gear. If an item costs 20 Red Gatherer or Crafter tokens, this should now be 10.

    Please take these into consideration as this is what the community wants.
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    Stop saying 'we' as though you mean everyone. You mean you and maybe some others but just say you then let anyone who agree's with you say they too want the same in a reply rather than trying to pretend everyone wants the same as you. Also you should not try to dictate, demand or threaten SE with your deadlines. If you will quit if SE do not hit your deadline then go ahead and quit already, I would prefer SE take their time and balance it right rather than rushing any changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Stop saying 'we' as though you mean everyone. You mean you and maybe some others but just say you then let anyone who agree's with you say they too want the same in a reply rather than trying to pretend everyone wants the same as you. Also you should not try to dictate, demand or threaten SE with your deadlines. If you will quit if SE do not hit your deadline then go ahead and quit already, I would prefer SE take their time and balance it right rather than rushing any changes.
    Based on posts from multiple relevant forums, most people who engage in conversation about this system want these changes.
    I also never said I was going to quit and never threatened anyone.

    If you have something to say, please do so without being rude and twisting my words.
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    Last edited by DarthBuzzer; 08-04-2015 at 09:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Stop saying 'we' as though you mean everyone. You mean you and maybe some others but just say you then let anyone who agree's with you say they too want the same in a reply rather than trying to pretend everyone wants the same as you. Also you should not try to dictate, demand or threaten SE with your deadlines. If you will quit if SE do not hit your deadline then go ahead and quit already, I would prefer SE take their time and balance it right rather than rushing any changes.
    When he say's "we" I believe he is meaning crafters and gatherers, but your not a Crafter or a Gatherer xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    ...but your not a Crafter or a Gatherer xD
    I think you'll find I am both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    I think you'll find I am both.
    Sorry, I will amend my post:

    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    When he say's "we" I believe he is meaning level 60 crafters or gatherers, but your not a level 60 Crafter or Gatherer xD
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    I found this odd too, the rate at which we got red scrips was never the issue, it was how expensive the items/gear/favours were using tokens. All this change does now is allow us to grind slightly less. Because the cap remains the same but we're getting roughly twice the scrips per turn in, we hit that cap earlier in the week then have to sit around and do nothing for even longer.

    I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I was able to hit the cap on reset day last week, so this whole week I've just been catching turn in fish for next week. Now it seems my hoard will carry over to the week after that as well, so technically I don't need to fish red scrip fish anymore.

    Like the OP says, the issue was never how long it took us to get the scrips in the first place, it was the cost of items/gear/tools, which is partly a function of the low scrip cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
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    Crafting Scrips needed some adjustments. The material cost for most items was a terrible ratio for how many scrips it rewarded. You had things like morel salad or marron glace that only gave what, 4-5 scrips less than equips that took dissolvents and ingots?

    I'm also disappointed at the lack of adjustments to favors. The amount of time they require for one crafting material is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Crafting Scrips needed some adjustments. The material cost for most items was a terrible ratio for how many scrips it rewarded. You had things like morel salad or marron glace that only gave what, 4-5 scrips less than equips that took dissolvents and ingots?

    I'm also disappointed at the lack of adjustments to favors. The amount of time they require for one crafting material is ridiculous.
    I'll be honest, I haven't touched crafting at all since 3.0 started, so my complaints were purely from a gatherer's point of view. Based on what you said it sounds like they took the fact that crafting would benefit from receiving more scrips then applied it to everyone, but made no other adjustments. I'm all for getting more scrips per turn in, but I still think the whole system needs more adjustments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    I'll be honest, I haven't touched crafting at all since 3.0 started, so my complaints were purely from a gatherer's point of view. Based on what you said it sounds like they took the fact that crafting would benefit from receiving more scrips then applied it to everyone, but made no other adjustments. I'm all for getting more scrips per turn in, but I still think the whole system needs more adjustments.
    Capping gathering scrips honestly wasn't a big issue for me. You'd have to hit the nodes a total of 24 times over the course of 7 days. Capping it in one day would be the same as capping out your esotarics in one day. Crafting scrips on the other hand, you had a random turn in for each day, and the cost:reward ratio for most of the crafts were utterly skewed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    I think you'll find I am both.
    Just as much as I am a SCH main, derpgoon main, dork kngint main. Unless you're one of those people that don;t use their mains on profile so we have to take your words as it is (which honestly would go both ways then).
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