People are hyping WAR's too much.

[Laptopmenace]

For the longest time, warriors were not even playable in this game. Now they are in a good spot, and because people don't understand what Sq-enix is trying to do with the class, they cry and cry some more. I think of warrior as a "hybrid tank" and I like the direction Sq-Enix is taking it. No it's not your typical meat shield play-style. And why people think every tank should play like that baffles me. I think of Warriors like I think of Bards and Machinists atm. Bard/Machinist are a support type of dps. Warrior to me is a dps type of tank.

[Abomination713]

Yeah, the 3 second cast time really kills Clemency. It should be instant with a 30 seconds cd. Some people would say that's OP, but the skill encourages that you use it on them. Why else would if reward you with 600 potency back? Heck, it takes like 40% of our total MP and is on the GCD (WAR is off the GCD). I would say that's worth a saving heal. It's useless as others have stated with the cast time. If it was instant, we could save people from the brink of death if they got hit really hard by something, but as of right now, no.

[Pinkie_Pie]

For the longest time, warriors were not even playable in this game. Now they are in a good spot, and because people don't understand what Sq-enix is trying to do with the class, they cry and cry some more. I think of warrior as a "hybrid tank" and I like the direction Sq-Enix is taking it. No it's not your typical meat shield play-style. And why people think every tank should play like that baffles me. I think of Warriors like I think of Bards and Machinists atm. Bard/Machinist are a support type of dps. Warrior to me is a dps type of tank.

Tell me about it, I compared taking out a mob with my drk and my warrior. It was like day and night. My warrior could kill it in seconds compare to my drk which has the same amount of gear. We wanted to try something new farming Rav ex and have double warrior and the boss went down even FASTER. By the time we limit, he was already at 10% health compare to having 30-35% health.

[Pinkie_Pie]

Yeah, the 3 second cast time really kills Clemency. It should be instant with a 30 seconds cd. Some people would say that's OP, but the skill encourages that you use it on them. Why else would if reward you with 600 potency back? Heck, it takes like 40% of our total MP and is on the GCD (WAR is off the GCD). I would say that's worth a saving heal. It's useless as others have stated with the cast time. If it was instant, we could save people from the brink of death if they got hit really hard by something, but as of right now, no.

I think that's why they made it where you get interrupted cause they don't want a paladin to be a last second cliche healer when tanking a boss. Look what happened to paladins in WoW when word of glory was first put in, prot paladins in were just healing them selves or others when tanking making fights really easy and stress heal free.

[elemental10]

I think Clemency is just a sort of "top up" healing.

There's this time when I tank The Vault with Ser Charibert. The AST was running OOM with Lustrous on CD and the MCH was dead so no MP regen there. So, I healed the BLM while getting some heals myself. The AST was fully healing me so I don't need that much heals anyway but the BLM wasn't receiving anything and "THE SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED" is slowly killing her. The healer got an AOE dot on everyone but it couldn't hold up against "THE SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED."

I spammed Riot Blade and got her up to half health at most at times, so she can actually DPS the boss.

We killed him with me half health and the BLM and AST on the verge of death. The MCH never got up again.

Clemency is like HG. It needs to be planned to be used effectively and I have never been interrupted before casting it. I mean if I have went WAR and about the same HP percent at that point and I only have Equilibrium? We would've wiped.

Clemency is a good tool for me and like everything about PLD, it's more focused on preserving life than destroying enemies like WAR or DRK. I like it.

But THAT doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy it being instant cast or less cast time.

[Pinkie_Pie]

Did someone say SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED?

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

But THAT doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy it being instant cast or less cast time.

*slow clap* It would probably go a long way making it a 2.5 second cast. IMO it should have been that from the beginning.
#CastClemencyPlease

[Tila]

but your missing the point like plds heals and stoneskins in a usual raid is something the healers would take care of and darks in general have less dps than warrior off tank.

Basicly off tanks are just incase MT dies to take agro but off tank should the strongest type of tank a warrior due to being able to snap agro quickest let alone dps.

DRK needs more OT utility yes.w I think everyone agrees on that.
PLD can OT just fine, they are just a little more support focused. Their cast bar difficulty is gone when they OT. Perhaps this is intentional?

EDIT: Dont forget that a nice little bit of PLD damage is now baked into their new DoT. Once more, maybe its intentional to allow OT casting. PLD is the safe Tank for both MTing and OTing. You use it when your raid needs a buffer.

[Faytte]

Atm i prefer MT and OT as a warrior, or a dark. Both mitigate all content very well, have good aoe, can take care of themselves and are useful.

Paladin...I dont see the case for them in either context, save for that they have hollowed ground.

[Hydrium]

Honestly at this point we're just complaining about minor things, tanks are in a very good spot at the moment where you really can bring whatever you want and you'll get it done which is a lot more than can be said about healers. Do some things need fixed? Yep. Has the sky fallen? Nope. Does it look like it's about to? Not even close.

Mountain meet molehill.