Please Fix Astrologians!

[Ehr]

Essential Dignity is stronger the lower hp the target has, so it's a bit different than Tetragrammaton or Lustrate. Lower cooldown then Tetragrammaton, but I'm not sure how the potency compares on lower hp (tetra is 700p and essential dignity is base 400p).

If I recall correctly what someone told me, Essential Dignity is 400 base potency and 10 potency for every 1% of hp missing. My static's WAR at 1 hp (he Holmganged the tank buster) was a 7k or so heal I think. Might be a bit off, was from like 2 weeks ago.

[M0xie]

I'm probably misunderstanding you, but you can click off card draws (and royal road) by right clicking it on your buff bar and immediately start the 30s cooldown rather than waiting for it to wear off.

I... I never thought to do this. DUH. Bonus that it resets the timer. Thank you!

[Marxam]

I'm currently leveling AST on my alt and I gotta say it's hella hard keeping up noob tanks compared to WHM and SCH. With WHM I got Bene and regen stacking. With SCH I can let the pet do the healing with Lustrates in between. But the one thing that really irks me is the lack of synergy between the other healers/AST. Diurnal and Nocturnal overwrite each other and that really annoys me.

[SDaemon]

I'm currently leveling AST on my alt and I gotta say it's hella hard keeping up noob tanks compared to WHM and SCH. With WHM I got Bene and regen stacking. With SCH I can let the pet do the healing with Lustrates in between. But the one thing that really irks me is the lack of synergy between the other healers/AST. Diurnal and Nocturnal overwrite each other and that really annoys me.

Diurnal doesn't overwrite anything other than another AST's spell so it synergies amazingly with a WHM and decently with a SCH (stacks with fairy regen). Noct overwrites a SCH's Aldo for some insane reason and another AST's. Also Helios and Benefic give 2 different hots that stacks in Diurnal, while Nocts shield is the same regardless.

[Selli]

They need to do something about their party bonus too. :\

It's not really a class that's "capable of filling either role fluidly" if they are fighting with SCH for spots in raids because they offer the same party bonus.

[EDIT] PS. Stoneskin II. The other healers need the ability to access this already.

[Aethaeryn]

They need to do something about their party bonus too. :\

It's not really a class that's "capable of filling either role fluidly" if they are fighting with SCH for spots in raids because they offer the same party bonus.

What...? Is that really a problem? "Sorry, Mr. Astro. We'd let you join our static, but we already have a sch giving us bonus piety and we really need the mind bonus from a white mage!" I guess for a small boost to cleric stance deeps...?

[Selli]

What...? Is that really a problem? "Sorry, Mr. Astro. We'd let you join our static, but we already have a sch giving us bonus piety and we really need the mind bonus from a white mage!" I guess for a small boost to cleric stance deeps...?

Yes it is.

It was a thing when BisEXual and Rav EX were the only end-game content we had. The PFs would be say WHM and SCH/AST. I've seen leaders deny AST's when they already had a SCH in the party. And it's not for Cleric Stance, it's for heals. The party bonus is nearly 30 mind (iirc it's 26?), and that's basically like having another accessory. It has definitely gotten worse with Savage, as most parties I see won't even accept ASTs for A1.

[EDIT] It's a raider thing, really. You probably won't encounter it as frequently for Bis and Rav now (especially not if the PF min ilevel is 190, LOL), and it certainly doesn't apply to level 50 content (it's done as an undersized party most of the time, anyway). But when fights are new and people are still progressing, yeah, this type of thing becomes an issue.

[Marxam]

Diurnal doesn't overwrite anything other than another AST's spell so it synergies amazingly with a WHM and decently with a SCH (stacks with fairy regen). Noct overwrites a SCH's Aldo for some insane reason and another AST's. Also Helios and Benefic give 2 different hots that stacks in Diurnal, while Nocts shield is the same regardless.

can you confirm which of these are stackable and won't overwrite each other?

WHM/AST

-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Diurnal)
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Diurnal) + Regen + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Regen + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Nocturnal)
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Nocturnal) + Regen + Aspected Benefic (Nocturnal)
-Regen + Aspeceted Benefic (Nocrutnal)

SCH/AST

-Succor + Aspected Helios (Diurnal)
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Diurnal) + Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Nocturnal)
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Nocturnal) + Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Nocturrnal)
-Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Nocturnal)

[Aethaeryn]

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Those PFs just sound like they were because the expansion was still new and people didn't know a lot about astro. I never saw a single PF that specifically outcast an AST just because of the party bonus. I did run into tons of people who had no idea that AST has diurnal sect for regen, though. They just assumed that ast and sch would be competing for galvanize/nocturnal field supremacy. Nocturnal Sect is terrible if there's a scholar in the group.

Also, people have been clearing savage floors with ast+sch, so I don't think the mind party bonus is absolutely vital for healing. It might help a little, but it should not make or break a group. I think AST having lower potency heals and would be the problem before the party bonus.

[Miiu]

can you confirm which of these are stackable and won't overwrite each other?

WHM/AST

-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Diurnal)
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Diurnal) + Regen + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Regen + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Nocturnal)
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Nocturnal) + Regen + Aspected Benefic (Nocturnal)
-Regen + Aspeceted Benefic (Nocrutnal)

SCH/AST

-Succor + Aspected Helios (Diurnal)
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Diurnal) + Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Nocturnal)
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Nocturnal) + Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Nocturrnal)
-Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Nocturnal)

WHM/AST Everything stacks.

SCH/AST Everything but Nocturnal spells stack.