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  1. #1
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    Kret's Avatar
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    Krixus Blade
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50

    DPS problem...SOLUTION!

    Maat. brought to us in FFXI


    Job specific 1v1 fight that makes you use your job correctly to defeat him. People learn their jobs, win.

    Forget it! not a dps fix. A horrible player fix. cant get past maat? sorry bro. git gud

    Also needs to be mandatory for all jobs. unlike ffxi

    Healer maat = npc you have to keep alive against maat for a certain amount of time
    Tank. = keep maats hate while you also have to pop cooldowns at proper times to avoid certain death
    DPS= beat the tar out of him. not enough dps.. not a win.

    edit: you cant do final dungeons/raids until defeated. no over gearing.
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    Last edited by Kret; 08-04-2015 at 10:18 AM.

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    Whocareswhatmynameis's Avatar
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    Fate Bringer
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    They nerfed steps of faith so people didn't have to learn how to play the game. So the chances of them doing this is unlikely. Sorry bro, the carebears are taking over and nerfing our game into the ground. It's sad to see honestly. I really enjoyed 2.0 but was really disappointed in 2.55 when the devs started swinging the nerfbat like a 12 year old at a pinata convention. I was hoping 3.0 was going to kind of reset things but nope, they still swinging the hell outta that nerfbat. I have a feeling I'm just going to start transitioning to playing other games with my time. FFXIV is starting to become pointless and boring with no real challenges in sight except alex savage IF you can put up with a static.
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    There are about five threads like this on the first page.

    And no, they aren't going to implement an idea that causes 75% of players to unsubscribe in their first month. You want to play with the best, make a group of the best. Be as exclusive as you want. When you join duty finder, you are agreeing to play with the greater player base.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    They nerfed steps of faith so people didn't have to learn how to play the game.
    They nerfed story content that was mandatory for people who want to play the $30 expansion.
    Shouldn't you be complaining about the nerfs to coil? You know, the actual difficult content made for serious players? Steps of faith had nothing to do with learning your class or being good at your in-game role. It was a one-and-done story fight with artillery mechanics that had no significance on being a good player.
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    Last edited by Gunspec; 08-04-2015 at 09:28 AM.

  4. #4
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Okay, unless you are raiding, there isnt much of a DPS check in this game. Is there really a need to rush here to the forums bitching about every lil thing? There have been countless topics bitching about every role lately. I'm fairly certain we dont need 10 more today do we?

    If people do have a problem with a player not correctly playing the job, then POLITELY offer advice. I say politely because 99% of the advice I've seen given is just some rude remark to a new player who is just trying to enjoy the game.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 08-04-2015 at 09:43 AM.

  5. #5
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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 66
    That content you don't like seeing people fail at is the DPS learning mechanism... It's just that people seem to have a huge issue with being a part of the learning process.
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

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    Cinicus Tron
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kret View Post
    Maat. brought to us in FFXI


    Job specific 1v1 fight that makes you use your job correctly to defeat him. People learn their jobs, win.

    Forget it! not a dps fix. A horrible player fix. cant get past maat? sorry bro. git gud

    Also needs to be mandatory for all jobs. unlike ffxi

    Healer maat = npc you have to keep alive against maat for a certain amount of time
    Tank. = keep maats hate while you also have to pop cooldowns at proper times to avoid certain death
    DPS= beat the tar out of him. not enough dps.. not a win.
    Steps of Faith for me was fun and fine. I do like a Maat fight as that was such a great part of FFXI and it really did make people learn how to play but it was also flawed. I do however like your way with the healer/tank/dps setup.
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  7. #7
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Part of doing good dps isn't just being able to do high dps on a training dummy. Its during a boss fight where you have to preform mechanics, dodge aoe and at the same time keeping high dps up. Most people know their rotations but they suffer when it comes keeping their rotation up while dodging stuff.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 08-04-2015 at 10:02 AM.

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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 60
    So basically, do the job quests. Doesn't seem to fix the problem though. DPS is dependent on gear so people will just out gear it. Also they added echo in the job quests because they didn't want to hold back people who sucked.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seig345 View Post
    That content you don't like seeing people fail at is the DPS learning mechanism... It's just that people seem to have a huge issue with being a part of the learning process.
    The problem is they don't learn. They whine on the forums about how hard things are until SE nerfs the content so they don't have to actually learn anything. The duty finder is largely pointless for a lot of content simply because so many people refuse to even try to improve and thus groups are incapable of clearing content. A lot of groups will wipe once and disband, and it's usually the 'bad' players that leave first when they realise this group can't give them a free carry.

    Some form of solo content that forces players to engage with their job mechanics and try to better themselves would work well as a gating mechanism for access to endgame content. They wouldn't need it for access to roulettes or other content where their impotence won't wipe the group but a skill-based check of sorts to unlock raid content like Alexander in the DF would be a good thing. They would have no reason to rage if they can't clear the gate because they wouldn't be able to handle the content that it gates anyway. Something akin to FFXI's Maat fights would be ideal for this.
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    Cedri Vastal
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    How about stop worrying about your DPS as a tank so we can actually hit as hard as we want?
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