Tank DPS Comparison Video

[Brian_]

I love these dummy parses with no real context, idealized situations for DRK and PLD, and basically a less than ideal situation for WARs that still end up with a gap in tank DPS. Then people quote it as if it means everything is okay.

LOL.

[Tila]

I love these dummy parses with no real context, idealized situations for DRK and PLD, and basically a less than ideal situation for WARs that still end up with a gap in tank DPS. Then people quote it as if it means everything is okay.

LOL.

Can you explain why its less than ideal for WAR? Or are you just assuming?

[Brian_]

None of the pacifications were removed so they lost 2 GCDs every Berserk.

It's just stupid because you are basically attaching a TP / debuff bot to the DRK and PLD but you can't even insta remove pacfication from the WAR.

[Sigmakan]

None of the pacifications were removed so they lost 2 GCDs every Berserk.

It's just stupid because you are basically attaching a TP / debuff bot to the DRK and PLD but you can't even insta remove pacfication from the WAR.

And hate inst an issue with dummy parses. If these tanks had to actually hold hate then DRK and PLD would go down because they would have to use their enmity combo, which is lower potency than their primary DPS combo.

[Zfz]

I can understand that there are times the PLD will also be enjoying the slashing debuff, and I really only run out of TP with underperforming DPS. But rather than OT dps, I'm more interesting in MT dps, i.e. in Tanking stance doing the "tanking" rotation. For example Storm's Path, Rage of Halone, etc.

I mean even as OT, shouldn't you be applying these debuffs for the MT? I don't see the value of a pure dps rotations when discussing relative usefulness/powerfulness of tank jobs. It's like judging the value of BLM and SMN by how much they can heal.

Or if really people don't care much about these debuffs even in Savage as OT, then I suppose yeah, why not, if you don't absolutely it need it then these debuffs are a waste and we should take them off our hotbars cause, dps rulz, right?

[KinSlayer009]

That Warrior burst rotation Was laughable at best.....
I can bust over 1500 with no food no potions over 1700 with....

[DGladius]

Should have gotten someone to remove the pacification from warrior if PLD and DRK were getting fed with tp and slashing debuff.

[pandabearcat]

Furthermore, 5 min is just an odd stopping point.

1. PLD should stop exactly at 85-90 seconds. PLD rotation is set in stone and should not get a 6th FoF.
2. DRK rotation should stop around 4:50 with between 0 and 1/4th mana. They should not get a 6th C&S.
3. WAR rotation should stop right before 3 min, as that is when infuriate and berserk line up.

Also I don't believe the "i can drop RoH from my rotation entirely" story. Your dps are godawful if you can 90% of the time use RA. If you are doing 0.5 then I can understand this, but not if you are MTing 1.0 like you should be.

[Dante_V]

I'm more interested in their dps in tanking stance with no slashing debuff.

[Phoebus]

Also I don't believe the "i can drop RoH from my rotation entirely" story. Your dps are godawful if you can 90% of the time use RA. If you are doing 0.5 then I can understand this, but not if you are MTing 1.0 like you should be.

Not entirely, but mostly. Let warrior start while you burst FoF SwO, then take it back after. You might have to do a couple RoH after swap, but that would be it for the fight.

Usually swap right after first resin/royal fout.

There's too much focus on the 3 tanks in a vacuum and not enough of how they compliment each other.

As for dps issues with paladin, if they would just move shield swipe to oGCD with a cd as had been asked since 2.0 the issue would be resolved.