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  1. #21
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    TitaniaZero's Avatar
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    De'anair'a Solanae
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Wait... all for some fancy high end crafted gear. Needing one to Raid. You know... those intimidating raid things where a silly DPS check/meter is wanted/needed. Ya... no. If the combat classes can sell it. I can see it being just as bad as the Thav stuff atm. Oo

    Ah well if they did do this... I suppose it would not affect me. Just make me sigh a lot.
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  2. #22
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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 60
    Oh, so the Hundreds and hundreds of millions are not enough for the crafters eh....cry me a river...If making money is the only enjoyment you get out of this game then maybe it is not for you. I craft and gather because it is fun and something different to do when I am not raiding...and don't need to take advantage of people and make insane amounts of gil off other people. Get over it already...the game should have never been that way to begin with. Crafted gear should be an alternative that lags behind...not a means of getting ahead.
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

  3. #23
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    Oh, so the Hundreds and hundreds of millions are not enough for the crafters eh....cry me a river...If making money is the only enjoyment you get out of this game then maybe it is not for you. I craft and gather because it is fun and something different to do when I am not raiding...and don't need to take advantage of people and make insane amounts of gil off other people. Get over it already...the game should have never been that way to begin with. Crafted gear should be an alternative that lags behind...not a means of getting ahead.
    Sorry doll. But you cant call yourself a crafter when you say that. You do not craft and gather at all, let alone for fun.
    And spouting some bandwagon comment you havent even thought up yourself doesnt make you look any smarter.
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  4. #24
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    kenventa's Avatar
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    Marach Galthena
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    Oh, so the Hundreds and hundreds of millions are not enough for the crafters eh....cry me a river...If making money is the only enjoyment you get out of this game then maybe it is not for you. I craft and gather because it is fun and something different to do when I am not raiding...and don't need to take advantage of people and make insane amounts of gil off other people. Get over it already...the game should have never been that way to begin with. Crafted gear should be an alternative that lags behind...not a means of getting ahead.
    /slap /slap /slap
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  5. #25
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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DarthBuzzer View Post
    Crafting and Raiding should always be connected and reliant on each other. You can disagree if you like, but thats just bad game design.
    Yes. I craft myself 100 dex pots every now and again and some food. It's enough.

    @whoever: Keep making yourself look butthurt that no1 needs your junk anymore .

    keep thinking im a "hater" because I don't wanna spend 10m for crafted equips. People are really gonna listen.
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  6. #26
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    Jade-Nephrite's Avatar
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    Jade Nephrite
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 60
    What was sad is that when the new DoW / DoM gear came out I had my regular raiders asking me to make them some pieces and I just couldn't unless I wanted to cut into my own progression. I tried to explain what they could do to get me the mats and I'll craft it for them and not a single player has asked me for a request
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  7. #27
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    falberto's Avatar
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    Blind Ajihad
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 70
    SE are just ignoring us, idk why they make this system, there is no reward, no motivation, only insane grind!
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  8. #28
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    Alexiell's Avatar
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    Alexiel Knight
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    Phoenix
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    Yes. I craft myself 100 dex pots every now and again and some food. It's enough.

    @whoever: Keep making yourself look butthurt that no1 needs your junk anymore .

    keep thinking im a "hater" because I don't wanna spend 10m for crafted equips. People are really gonna listen.
    Crafters that cant gather stuff on their own have to buy the favor materials for millions of gil. On my server ooids etc are sold between 100k and 200k, you need 20 of those for one 2star crafting material, most items require 3-4 of them, so thats 60-80 times 100k =6-8million gil for the favor mats at the very least, a more likely price is 10-12m, thats not including the prices for other mats like aethersand, demimateria, the lvl 60 items they have to turn in for red scrips or the risk to craft a NQ item which is pretty much worthless. Considering all this, prices between 15m and 20m for 1 armor part/weapon are reasonable. But who will buy the ilvl 180 crafted gear, the casual that doesnt have time to raid or get his weekly tome cap with <100k gil on his bank account? I understand they dont want crafted gear to mess with raid progression, but there has to be some use for it at least. its not right to make the crafter gear weaker but much harder to obtain at the same time.
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  9. #29
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    Yes. I craft myself 100 dex pots every now and again and some food. It's enough.

    @whoever: Keep making yourself look butthurt that no1 needs your junk anymore .

    keep thinking im a "hater" because I don't wanna spend 10m for crafted equips. People are really gonna listen.
    But meanwhile you have no problem with selling the items you get from raiding for millions.


    Well thats okay. I hope you use that gil to furnish your house.
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  10. #30
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    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
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    Rosenthal Hogire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    If making money is the only enjoyment you get out of this game then
    That's kind of. . . a part of why people craft. The market board is just as much a part of the crafting game as the crafting itself. Since you only craft for the sake of crafting and fun during your down time though, I get why you don't get why people are upset.
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