Crafting is now POINTLESS

[Kiyyto]

I'm sorry in advance to the vocal minority of people that think a forum should always be "clean" and free of complaints, and NEVER have more than 1 thread on the same issue, lol.

I am desperate for some reason to keep going with the atrocious scrip system that they have implemented. I just had a talk with a good friend of mine and both of us agree that we are losing interest in FFXIV because there is zero incentive for us to continue to craft.

I have absolutely nothing to offer end game DoW, DoM, raiders or... Anyone.

And to be tied to my gatherers for such an insanely difficult grind is NO FUN (688 perception, 670 gathering, 654 GP Bot & Min)

This game is supposed to be fun, at least a little right?

Seriously considering unsubbing once Fallout comes out. I just see no reason to clock in to this game everyday if the devs are intent on kicking me in the teeth as a crafter.

I Am NOT afraid of work
I did Supra when it was hard, all of them.
I did the books when they were real!
Having to get through that 2.3 grind was Awesome!
(Psss, that's because there was a reward and reason to do it)

But this, no thanks.
It's not even that the scrip system is arbitrary and pointlessly difficult (it is), but rather that even if I level all the way to having a FULL set of BLUE 170 crafted... There is not a single thing I have to offer anyone in any combat content. Let me be clear - the devs failed us, crafters. There is ZERO reason to level beyond Chimerical Felt and there is next to nothing worth crafting at even that level.

And that, I'm sorry to say... is just plain STUPID.
Bad game design my friends (and trolls), bad game design 101.

Dear devs, fix it or I'll go somewhere else. You have ruined a good balance that was present in 2.3-2.55 and I for one am not going to play another year if things stay like this.


Oh and, lol... I'm far from the only one.

[syndicategamer13]

I can somewhat agree to this, but I'm more or less disappointed in the new crafting and gathering system. I've discussed with most of my friends in the game about the system, actually asking them if they understand how to go about doing the collectibles and scripts. Their answer - they have no clue. Mind you one friend of mine hit master crafter before me, and even he doesn't know anything about this stuff. I feel like they should have made the scripts and collectibles a bit easier, not a whole lot, but enough to where it wont drive people away. I still plan on crafting and gathering to 60, but from what I've seen in numerous forums this system needs to change for the game's sake.

[Mature]

Well I am LOVING crafting in general and gathering, especially gathering tbh.

My only concern is the red scrip grind for crafting. It's getting nerf tomorrow. Apart from that I'm pretty happy with everything else.

[Kiyyto]

Well I am LOVING crafting in general and gathering, especially gathering tbh.

My only concern is the red scrip grind for crafting. It's getting nerf tomorrow. Apart from that I'm pretty happy with everything else.

The crafting mechanic, the act of crafting, has always been fun to do... But that is not enough, there needs to be UTILITY to other gamers who are not crafters. I mean, it's mind-bogglingly stupid for the devs to think that ENDGAME crafting can exist as a worthwhile entity on its own, with no utility for anyone who is not a crafter.


I mean the jewelry is garbage as it's so many ilvls below tome gear, same for any armor or DoW gear, the weapons are glamour at best, there is literally nothing of value beyond the Thavnarian crap and that's only going to last as long as it "feels new".

I for one am completely sick of these chicken poop developers who are so damned frightened of making something crafted actually useful to anyone. The developers are so afraid of crafted gear they have actually made crafted tools near useless. Now, even the damn tools we can craft for ourselves (which have no utility mind you, beyond crafting more crafting gear) - now those crafted tools are junk versus scrip gear (unless you have hundreds of millions of Gil to spend on grade V materia that doesn't exist, lol.

My God, you guys (Devs) blew this so badly.
It's awful, and the more I think about it the more I am seeing how timid you are, it's really getting old by now.

Here's an idea... Dear Dev's, grow a pair and make crafting useful for once in all our lives. That's really all there is to it, all the complaints come down to this, fine make a grind. Fine, make the worst grind ever!

But make there be something worth grinding for at the end.
You know what is at the end of this magic grind?
It might as well be a pair of dirty shoelaces, and they ain't magic shoelaces. Cause there is nothing worth crafting.

LAME

[Purrfectstorm]

The crafting mechanic, the act of crafting, has always been fun to do... But that is not enough, there needs to be UTILITY to other gamers who are not crafters. I mean, it's mind-bogglingly stupid for the devs to think that ENDGAME crafting can exist as a worthwhile entity on its own, with no utility for anyone who is not a crafter.


I mean the jewelry is garbage as it's so many ilvls below tome gear, same for any armor or DoW gear, the weapons are glamour at best, there is literally nothing of value beyond the Thavnarian crap and that's only going to last as long as it "feels new".

I for one am completely sick of these chicken poop developers who are so damned frightened of making something crafted actually useful to anyone. The developers are so afraid of crafted gear they have actually made crafted tools near useless. Now, even the damn tools we can craft for ourselves (which have no utility mind you, beyond crafting more crafting gear) - now those crafted tools are junk versus scrip gear (unless you have hundreds of millions of Gil to spend on grade V materia that doesn't exist, lol.

My God, you guys (Devs) blew this so badly.
It's awful, and the more I think about it the more I am seeing how timid you are, it's really getting old by now.

Here's an idea... Dear Dev's, grow a pair and make crafting useful for once in all our lives. That's really all there is to it, all the complaints come down to this, fine make a grind. Fine, make the worst grind ever!

But make there be something worth grinding for at the end.
You know what is at the end of this magic grind?
It might as well be a pair of dirty shoelaces, and they ain't magic shoelaces. Cause there is nothing worth crafting.

LAME

So how do you really feel?

[Ruri]

I don't mind the new gathering collectable system/scrips but crafting is getting expensive to get red scrips done and not much interesting things can be made with the high difficulty master recepies yet.

[Kiyyto]

I don't mind the new gathering collectable system/scrips but crafting is getting expensive to get red scrips done and not much interesting things can be made with the high difficulty master recepies yet.

I agree, the new gathering is fun.
It's too time consuming if you are a master crafter, but it is def enjoyable.

[Mature]

I wouldn't mind if they add new recipes with ilvl190 gear or accessories to make crafting worth while for raiding and motivate people to craft to make the money from it . So far I'm crafting to gear my crafting classes for the future and to lvl them to 60. apart from that I'm doing not much.

I know people are gearing with ilvl180 stuff for Alex savage but the amount of dps lost on that is huge.

Don't get me wrong I do agree in some of your points.

[CyrusBryant]

After the introduction of the red scrips weekly system, lack of usefulness in crafting, and continuation of mediocre PvP.. I've decided to just let my sub run out. When, my friends and I or players in general are trying to come up with reasons to continue paying $13/15 a month to play a game there's a problem. And to us, it seems that Alex Savage is the only thing going for FFXIV right now and that alone isn't worth paying for. The game currently feels more like a chore than it does a game. SE needs to communicate with the community before players start leaving. A simple "Hey we are doing this, we have this planned, or we are changing this, Just stay put" Makes a world of difference.

[starLivitation]

As a crafter who gone thru the previews rounds, lucids and master books, i can say i dont like the new red scripts or even blue scripts. the 3rd master book was atually a challange, to craft and secure the materials. i actually learned a lot about crafting makign those items. but new red scripts are terribly boring and just a plain boring activity and i dont see the point of the whole activity from what the other have said.

so far i have weaver and culnarian at 60. it looks pointless to do red scripts on weaver because of the rediclus prices on their material. while on culnarian it is cheaper but u get only 9 red scripts per item.

as a culnarian if i wana craft some food for my raid group, i have to use my botanist and goto unspoiled nodes even for simple low level food such as lvl 51 to 55. in 2.0 i used to be able to make button in a blanket as a basic raid foood without going to unspoiled nodes. why in 3.0 i must goto unspoiled node to craft a simple food for my raid? we raid savage 4 times a week, i dont have the time to gather everything. in 2.0 i can just pick up some stuff from mb that is not prices like crazy but because of this unspiled node stuff, i have to either gather everything or pay rediclus prices for these materials.

pleasse Square can u have better decision making, not all people can play 24/7 there need to be some easliy obtainable raid food that is not connected to unspoiled nodes. or at least, increase the yield from unspoiled nodes like we used to have for some of the nodes that would give 2-3 , or the culnarian would be able to craft 3 items in 1 synth like 4 star that would be nice....