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  1. #91
    Player
    Estellios's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Yoso Carrasco
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 77
    I think the only thing they should change is to make shriek not 1-shot non-tanks if they are in decent gear. Insta-kills are horrible, you generally don't get to practice anymore once you eat one, and it places a lot of stress on new healers in particular since if they die it's a wipe. Bringing you down to really low hp is enough of a "hey you should pay attention" without making an attempt a complete wipe and still puts you at risk to die to other attacks if you aren't taken care of immediately.
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  2. #92
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    AsahinaMyLove's Avatar
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 90
    Garuda is fine.
    More like... nerf Charibert! >_> That boss fight is the (unfair/cheap) hardest one in whole HW story!
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  3. #93
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Oct 2013
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Senah Kha
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    The people bringing up gear hit the nail. Not too long ago, my FC was trying to take a new member through Garuda story. The three of us were all above level 50 and level synced down, while the new FC mate was a level 44 white mage. Even with the three experienced members, we couldn't do it because heals couldn't keep up. We went back after she hit 45 and had AF gear and access to Holy, and cleared with no problem.
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  4. #94
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    Veve's Avatar
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    Character
    Fey Covenant
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    When I first read this I genuinely thought it was a joke. Garuda is the first semi challenging boss that players encounter on their main story line. It's not supposed to be easy, the whole point is for people to learn the fight and actually achieve something at the end of it. It doesn't take a lot of effort to look up the fight, or as you say if you're the only person who isn't new then have some patience and actually explain it.

    This is SoF all over again and I hope SE doesn't actually nerf this.
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  5. #95
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Character
    Famine Cruor
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    I think that nerfing this fight would set people up for greater failure in the trials to come. Normal Garuda teaches transition mechanics that can be of benefit to someone who goes on to do King Moogle Mog, Shiva, and Nabriales. Newbies need to learn this stuff, it can't all be about making things speedy for veteran players.
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  6. #96
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    Red_Wolf's Avatar
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    Character
    Quentin Hood
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    It's not the fight. It's the minimum level. It's too low and doesn't work well with where certain classes are in progression. This is especially true for new players without access to better gear and cross class abilities. As a fresh 44 WHM this fight was an absolute nightmare. Two levels later (with quest gear) I one shot it with the essentially the same group. Normally a lower level is carried by a higher level counterpart but since this is a 4 man instance that will never happen.

    People are bringing up Ravana Normal as if it was difficult in anyway. It's not.

    Honestly... there isn't a single fight below Extreme (possibly Titan HM with lag) that I would consider difficult or necessary progression. I don't understand where this elitism is coming from. This is a great game, but it is very casual. Let's remind ourselves of that please. Other MMO's current and past have built much tougher instances requiring more people and hours logged.
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  7. #97
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    kudokun3's Avatar
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    Nocturne Lunatic
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 83
    No nerf for Garuda Normal please. This fight is just another test for new players how to play their jobs and to learn boss mechanics. At LV45 you can make Jobquests to get Artefact-Gear for head, arms, legs and shoes. With this and other Gear pieces on same level (or little bit lower) you should have at least good stats to prevent some damage. Same with weapon which you can get from your Grand Company to kill feather adds faster when you know your job.
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    #ffxiv_projectluna

    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Weiterüben, der Wille sich selbst zu verbessern und Geduld waren schon immer das Wichtigste im Raid.

  8. #98
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    Whiteprincess's Avatar
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    Character
    White Princess
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Reminds me of when I did titan normal and the healer kept dying. I was the tank basically I had to cure the healer after an aoe all the time lol
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  9. #99
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    Lemuel81's Avatar
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    Draelon Eldad
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 91
    Garuda Story mode does not need a nerf. If you can not complete gardua story mode as a team- you will not get very far in later fights. The mechanics to the fight are really simple. Its actually threads like this that causes devs to dumb things down.

    Heres a thought- how bout communication between yourself and the group? Not trying to be rude or anything but I have been in enough groups where people don't want to put in any type of real effort. Personally if im in a group in a new fight and I'm here trying to explain a fight, set up roles etc etc. And there isnt any type of effort and communication, im out of there. Dont waste my time if your not even going to bother..Or we can come on here and ask SE to continue to make faceroll content. My 2 cents.
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  10. #100
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Character
    Cirra Maru
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteprincess View Post
    Reminds me of when I did titan normal and the healer kept dying. I was the tank basically I had to cure the healer after an aoe all the time lol
    Why not just Cure yourself once the healer died then?
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