I've permanently solved The Wanderer's Minuet problem...

[Drakeos]

Your forgetting YOUR A SUPPORT Class go play DRG,NIN, MNK or BLM, SMN if you want damage

[Tyrial]

Your forgetting YOUR A SUPPORT Class go play DRG,NIN, MNK or BLM, SMN if you want damage

How dare you say that! When he hops in DF he's classified as a DPS so that is obviously the only thing he's expected to do...

[Evergrey]

How dare you say that! When he hops in DF he's classified as a DPS so that is obviously the only thing he's expected to do...

When I hop into a DF I do so as a Tank, but I am expected to DPS but in your words, I am obviously only expected to Tank.

[Tyrial]

When I hop into a DF I do so as a Tank, but I am expected to DPS but in your words, I am obviously only expected to Tank.

It's called sarcasm...you obviously missed the earlier post by the OP shooting down my comment stating that he's a support class not a straight up DPS.

As for tanks DPSing...yes...any tank worth his salt should be putting out as much DPS as he safely can without turning into a complete MP sponge, but that's a topic of discussion for another thread.

[SuperZay]

How dare you say that! When he hops in DF he's classified as a DPS so that is obviously the only thing he's expected to do...

If I'll que as DPS and only 'support' the party with songs I'll be kicked by 99% of groups, and rightfully so. Hmmm, maybe bard isnt so support class after all huh?

[Tyrial]

If I'll que as DPS and only 'support' the party with songs I'll be kicked by 99% of groups, and rightfully so. Hmmm, maybe bard isnt so support class after all huh?

Again...where in my post did I say you should only sit there and sing songs? You're initial post is nothing but you being bitter that you can't run around while still shooting the mobs/boss. BRD mobility in 2.x was something that never should have been allowed and you're upset that SE decided they agreed with that point of view and gave you incentive to stop running around while DPSing. Big deal, you have a cast bar now, learn mechanic timing and don't start charging a skill when there's something coming that you'll need to move out of.

[YGSLlew]

There is no such thing as a "Support-class". Never was and never will be. Bard brings slightly more utility than other classes and even in 2.x times, you got a lower DPS output compared to well played DRG, MNK and so on.

While I am using the WM now, since I have to if I want to get the best out of my class, I am not happy about the massive playstyle change. While it is true that we are still on the same DMG level compared to others, as we were in 2.x, it now has really become clunky compared to the good old times.

Those who love bards adapt to the changes, but it's undenyable, that the majority, who choose the class for it's mobility got a huge "bear with it" in their face. Yes, there are those who didn't move that much back then, but it was still a big change.

[EdwinLi]

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Well that is what happens when people want a DPS increase to a Mobility DPS Job.

Yoshi-P did discuss the reason why mobility DPS Job like Bard and Machinist had lower DPS was the issue of balancing the Job so it doesn't end up being the Ideal DPS Job that can DPS big or close to a Mage Job or Melee Jobs while being able to run around like a headless chicken without facing any danger a Melee and Mage DPS jobs had to face.

It would be a nightmare scenerio for Job developers if Bard and Machinist becomes equal DPS to Melees and Mages DPS without any way to prevent them from overshadowing these two types of Jobs because then people will start demanding for Bards and Machinist to be nerfed due to those two jobs being better and easier to play than a BLM, SMN, DRG, and/or MNK due to having equal DPS rate while not having any worries for the Danger of standing still to DPS nor being up close to the boss to DPS.

Of coruse they could have ignored the DPS Stance for Bard and Machinist but then people will be still complaining Bards and Machinists do not perform equal or close DPS rate to BLM, SMN, DRG, and/or MNK while still running around like a headless chicken.