I've permanently solved The Wanderer's Minuet problem...

[RiceisNice]

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Beyond having instant cast (because my problem really is not standing still, it's how the cast times get in the way of how bard was designed in 2.0, such as watching for SS procs and bloodletter resets), they're both conceptually the same. Watch for DoTs, watch for procs and use oGCD when it's available. Ammo's use is only justified on 2 abilities (3 if we're counting reassembled clean shot) and is incredibly streamed line. As a bard, I can't catch my skill procs unless I delay my next weaponskill beyond the 2.5 GCD, and I'll either have to delay my next weaponskill (from doubling up oGCDs) or delaying bloodletter if a reset occurs during empyreal arrow or right after another oGCD. Both classes watch out for random procs, but I can only reflexively react to them on machinist.

[Izularia]

Many if not all Bards hate it, lol
Only the ones that just refuse to adapt or are not able to for whatever reason, i guess complaining comes easier then learning changes

Given that there were LOTS of WM threads in the past, yes, many bards hate it

[Kaedan]

Given that there were LOTS of WM threads in the past, yes, many bards hate it

It was generally a handful of people each making their own thread and then posting in each others. It looked like it was a "huge uproar", but it really wasn't. You can go back and count the number of unique posters and it's less than 50. I think my last count it was something like 30 people whining with a lot of repeat posts by a very vocal few.

The forums can never, never be relied upon for judging the amount of people on one side of an issue or the other. Besides the fact that the forums represent maybe 0.001% of the population, people are about 10x more likely to post about something they don't like than they do.

[Izularia]

It was generally a handful of people each making their own thread and then posting in each others. It looked like it was a "huge uproar", but it really wasn't. You can go back and count the number of unique posters and it's less than 50. I think my last count it was something like 30 people whining with a lot of repeat posts by a very vocal few.

The forums can never, never be relied upon for judging the amount of people on one side of an issue or the other. Besides the fact that the forums represent maybe 0.001% of the population, people are about 10x more likely to post about something they don't like than they do.

While I agree with you to a certain extent, I noticed that I meet less bards in content than I used to before Heavensward. Could be because many went Machinists or whatever, but I don't know..

Looking forward to level my bard beyond 50 myself to see how it is with WM

[Kaedan]

While I agree with you to a certain extent, I noticed that I meet less bards in content than I used to before Heavensward. Could be because many went Machinists or whatever, but I don't know..

Looking forward to level my bard beyond 50 myself to see how it is with WM

Unfortunately, that's pretty anecdotal. I'm not doubting that may be what you have experienced (or at least felt like you experienced), but just yesterday I did the following:

A2
A1
Neverreap
Fractal

I was Machinist for all but one (I was DRK for Neverreap) and there was a BRD in every group I was in. And I noted that they all used WM. Again, the only people who know how many people quit playing BRD is SE, because they have all the metrics. Our personal experiences are far too anecdotal to even suggest a trend one way or the other.

[Taban]

Honestly I've leveled smn and I've been playing it for a bit, but I'm just not feeling it. Maybe I played brd too long and I'm stuck in my ways but it just doesn't feel right. I'll probably stick it out until 3.1 to see if things get better, and if they don't I'll cancel.

[EdwinLi]

Honestly I've leveled smn and I've been playing it for a bit, but I'm just not feeling it. Maybe I played brd too long and I'm stuck in my ways but it just doesn't feel right. I'll probably stick it out until 3.1 to see if things get better, and if they don't I'll cancel.

You could try build your gathering or crafting for now if DoW and/or DoM Jobs aren't cutting it.

As of now not much is at lvl 60 since the game doesn't start develeping majority of the lvl 60 contents until 3.1 and beyond.


3.0 timeframe is just the time to build your character and finding out which Job you'll settle as your Main Job before the waves of lvl 60 content is released in 3.X era on each 2.5 Month Updates.

Beyond that Endgame players can settle with Alex Savage.

while Casuals can just take their time with current content.

Leveling other DoW and DoM Jobs are also opinion for players that want multiple Job choices, yet to choose their Main Job, or to unlock each Job Storyline (Some players do level other Jobs just for the Job storyline).

[LeeraSorlan]

My only complaint is where you unlock WM in the skilltree. Mchs as well to a lesser extent.New players that choose archer will be playing with instant shots and free movement up untill lvl 52 then suddenly chahge to casting.
No other jobs change as drastically in there main branch (melee still melee from 1 - 60, healers still heal with casts etc)
and that will confuse and even put off the newer players, especially if they dont know WM is even a thing.
Luckily you can switch jobs whenever you want

[KaedrianLiang]

Given the opportunity to play both BRD(56) and MCH(56) for a a few million exp worth of dungeon crawling. Theres a more serious under lying issue with the application of WM. The original bard skills, which are still bread and butter of brd's rotation, were obviously never designed to have a cast time, however MCH skills and overall kit clearly fit with added cast time.

Devs observing and balancing the brd kit needs to continue.

[Mizukaru]

I honestly can't see the point to them adding a cast time to these skills. but if there was anything I could ask them to change, it would be the animation while under the effect of Gauss barrel. The animation looks so fucking terrible I can barely stand to look at it. trying to twirl your gun around in to circle motions for every single fucking cast not only looks bad and glitchy, but doesn't even make god damn sense. Please just change the animation to them holding their gun upwards, or aiming down the scope or some shit. not this circus twirling glitch fest. The animator should be shot with his own animation... of course it would miss. BECAUSE NO ONE SPINS A GUN LIKE THAT FOR EVERY SHOT