I've permanently solved The Wanderer's Minuet problem...

[RiceisNice]

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Just to clarify point 2, you can't use bloodletter immediately after an oGCD (such as blunt arrow, flame arrows, sidewinder, internal release or other buffs), and conversely, you can't use a skill immediately right after another skill, such as empyreal (which is off GCD), any weaponskill immediately after an oGCD, or buffs. Sure you can still play through all that, but there's going to be times that you double up on a oGCD inbetween GCD because of bloodletter resets, and that leads to brief pauses where you can't do anything despite you GCD being off cooldown, whereas in 2.0 bard (or machinist for that matter since they don't have an oGCD reset) you were never really encumbred by the brief pauses after an oGCD if you've been weaving your skills properly.


3. To add onto this, you have to be in WM/GB to stay at relatively the same dps as you were in 2.0 when you didn't have WM. That hasn't changed, and now we're also taking a dps hit when we have to move anyway. Surely uptime wasn't that big of a deal for melee/casters in FCoB or 2.0 content ,and it's certainly not the case now when they're familiar with the fight. And just to nitpick, monks have gotten a few abilities that minimizes the damage loss from downtime through chakra and tornado kick

[Gallus]

To the people saying BRD does less damage. My static BRD pulls almost 1k damage on A1S. Even our MNK struggles to keep up with her.
People complaining about BRD do not realize that they are complaining over probably the most broken class at the moment along with SMN and DRG. You guys have been buffed mad. Single target wise BRD does tons of damage now, split damage (2 far targets like 2 opressors or leviathan) it's godlike due to iron jaws, and in pulls it's significantly better than in 2.0 due to the 30% permadamage buff (autoattacks are not even a thing in large pulls).

What are you even complaining about...

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Glad you clarified #2, Rice. I'm still feeling things out myself, but as of yet have seen very little impact on what I could do vs what I can/try to do now. And for #3, I usually weigh turning off the stance and continuing to attack as necessary per situation. And in fairness, I think leveling MCH up first kinda gave me a trainer on the casting stances for the most part. Still, I can acknowledge that Minuet doesn't seem to have as much of a natural flow as Gauss, but it's far from making the job unplayable or giving me reason to drop it or go be a BLM (which I also am, lol.)

It DID require a lot of adaptation on my part, and that's largely what the issue seems to be here. The rest - the legit and serious parts - have been discussed, addressed, or continues to be monitored by SE. Not expecting a world of change, or the stance to be removed, but I can certainly deal with it.

[RiceisNice]

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I leveled up machinist first before bard, and the problems with WM being slapped on bard is extremely evident right after getting it. The constant disconnects trying to weave oGCd feels very unnatural and very fragmented, compared to machinist where if you never put yourself in a position of doubling up and causing those pauses (whereas bard can't really afford to delay bloodletter, and not doing so will delay their weaponskill). Even after adapting to WM, it doesn't change the fact that bard feels much slower than it was before, and those pauses when my GCD is off cooldown is just, ugh.

[Dhex]

Our Bard does 1100dps whenever we attempt Savage and boosts our BLM from a steady 1100 to a solid 1300+ with Foe they also top off Healer MP during jump phase of Oppressor - all around damn useful.


Sounds like you need a tissue for your personal issue OP.

[repoe]

Our Bard does 1100dps whenever we attempt Savage and boosts our BLM from a steady 1100 to a solid 1300+ with Foe they also top off Healer MP during jump phase of Oppressor - all around damn useful.


Sounds like you need a tissue for your personal issue OP.

Yea im a tank main war pld 60 drk55 and i don't under stand these rants by bards about Wm. My static runs with 2. Bard's and same they both pull about 1kplus in savage. Ran Bismark ex to help friend clear with 3 bard's the pug dps was like this isn't going to happen, I told him to shut up and do his job. All adds were dead before bismarks spine was targetable.

I figure if they want to quit the class, so be it. The less bad bard's. The better

[Adventica6]

actually brd dps isn't that far off a blm, maybe 60-70, if you're going to ignore the fundamental mechanics of the class then yeah your dps is going to be garbage, changing classes won't help you.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Huh, I thought I logged out of facebook.

[Nestama]

BLM was the easiest job to play, now it's a little more complicated thanks to Enochian (watch both of my buff timers, remaining MP AND judge how long a cast will be). I still love BLM.

[Zari]

WM can be a problem, but people saying GB is exactly the same clearly know nothing about MCH. Yes the skill does the same thing, but MCH was built with this skill in mind, so actually works really well with it. BRD was not built with it in mind, which does cause problems for some BRDs