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    What is the point of having a twist if nothing is done with it? (story spoiler)

    The moment it was reveled that Thancred got possessed by Lahabrea the first thing that popped into my head was: I don't even know who you are!?!. Watching as Minfilia got super sad seeing him be evil now made angry. And whats worse NOTHING happens after this. LITERALLY nothing is done with. The only reason why it happens was to give an explanation as to what happened to Thancred. Nothing else. WHAT WAS THE POINT OF IT THEN? Should i have been surprised when i saw the reveal. Hell no! i don't even know who he is. Why should care about a character that has barely done anything and has been missing most of the other half of the story. I even completely forgot who that person was. Because of that i was even more pissed of at first. because i thought it was some random dude. i had to google to remember who he was. Please elaborate, explain to me why it happened.
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    Wow. Spoilers, man.
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    Hard for me to weigh in due to perspective... It's possible I took the Thancred reveal for granted because Yda, Papalymo, Y'shtola, and Thancred were all introduced in the game's original 1.0 release in 2010.

    It could be that this was an oversight on SE's part in terms of looking at the story from the perspective of someone who's only just now coming in from where A Realm Reborn starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
    Um... if you started a character in Ul'dah, you would have met Thancred much earlier and would have known more about him. Uldah characters get Thancred, Limsa get Ysh'tola, and Gridania get paplymo and Yda.

    Also, Thancred was an important character in 1.0. Also, they DO plenty with it later on in the MSQ, and refer back to it throughout the 2.X storyline once Thancred has recovered. Also, Thancred is with you the whole time you are investigating Ifrit. Remember when you were wearing poor person clothes and trying to get kidnapped? I remember that, and I did the story 2 years ago.
    Okay nevermind... I -didn't- remember that, but it's a fair point. You do interact with Thancred quite a bit prior to the reveal. Also, in an on-going MMO, it's hard to state whether or not "nothing" was done with this; the story ain't over until they announce that they're done creating new content for FFXIV.
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    Last edited by Seig345; 08-02-2015 at 05:43 PM.
    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

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    Same thing happens a few more time iirc later on, don't want to spoil it though. =l SE just likes to backtrack on their decisions, poor writing.
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    You are gonna hate what Heavensward does with previous twists if the Thancred thing pisses you off lol
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    How can you not know who thancred is?

    Did you not watch any cutscenes or read any of the text up to this point? Or heck, even watch the ARR opening. You're even a black mage! Your entire level 1 to level 15 storyline focused on thancred and no one else! >_> (Assuming you started as a thaumaturge)

    And even if you didn't start in ul'dah, you would have seen thancred many times. In every last waking sands cutscene nearly, and in the entire Ifrit plotline.

    Seems like you just didn't pay attention, man.
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    Um... if you started a character in Ul'dah, you would have met Thancred much earlier and would have known more about him. Uldah characters get Thancred, Limsa get Ysh'tola, and Gridania get paplymo and Yda.

    Also, Thancred was an important character in 1.0. Also, they DO plenty with it later on in the MSQ, and refer back to it throughout the 2.X storyline once Thancred has recovered. Also, Thancred is with you the whole time you are investigating Ifrit. Remember when you were wearing poor person clothes and trying to get kidnapped? I remember that, and I did the story 2 years ago.
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    Thancred almost completely disappears around soon after you kill ifrit somewhere around lvl25ish or so, that's when he is sent to investigate Lahabrea. And that's it, there only couple of mentions about to his sudden disappearance and that's that. Mind you the quest where he is revealed is around lvl 45 ish. Getting from 25ish to 45ish takes a long time especially if you're not playing it every day. Meaning you can completely forget that Thancred even existed. Because you don't even do a quest to figure out his wheareabouts. He is literally forgotten for 20 or so levels. And then you make a sudden reveal without ANY prior explanation that such thing could be possible. Oh wait i'm sorry there's like a sentence told by Minfilia that such thing could happen. She told it either before she got captured by the empire, or after the reveal had happened i don't remember it well enough. So please by all means explain that
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    Rewatch cutscenes from the Inn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verkas View Post
    Getting from 25ish to 45ish takes a long time especially if you're not playing it every day. Meaning you can completely forget that Thancred even existed.
    By your logic, they shouldn't have made Jason Todd come back as Red Hood, because there were 20 years between the batman comic when he was killed off and when he returned. Or perhaps they shouldn't have made rescuing Han Solo the opening act of Return of the Jedi, because there was a three year gap between Empire and Jedi, and who remembers what happened in a movie 3 years ago?

    Thancred left to investigate something shady, Thancred is unaccounted for when the scions are attacked, Thancred is later seen to have been possessed by the shady stuff he went to investigate, and judging from your magitek armor mount, I assume you know that defeating Lahabrea without killing Thancred in the process is the finale to the 2.0 storyline. The character is thus introduced, the problem is set up, and the situation is resolved. Literally the definition of "doing something" with a twist.

    It's not like he was a never-before-seen character who was defeated by accident during his first appearance.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHbIs1pZ1m8
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