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  1. #51
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    Kietsu's Avatar
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    Kyett Corbeau
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    Coeurl
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    Summoner Lv 90
    As a general reminder, secondary stats got shot in the knees and have lower stat weights all across the board, for all classes.
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  2. #52
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I'm banking on the relic in 3.1 being a viable option in the short-to-mid term. Despite secondaries being of somewhat less concern at the moment, I'm not sacrificing what crit I have on my Hive Codex for that godawful i200 Elements book until it's definitely my biggest upgrade.

    For AST I might have considered it as a first purchase because I care less about crit for healers other than SCH, but even in that case I probably would have prioritized the i200 chest piece since I don't plan on using the i190 chest for SCH.

    Either way in the long run it's a trivial decision since we'll keep accumulating eso and will continue to see new content with horizontal progression (e.g. the Relic quest in 3.1 and the still-somewhat-secret new 24 man raid).
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 08-05-2015 at 04:29 AM.

  3. #53
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    Akava's Avatar
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    Akava Buvelle
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I've decided to dive head first into Astro for Savage. I've already spent Eso on Ast gear to ensure I keep up with my group in power level. I figure that if I really want to show Yoshi and his team that Ast needs help, I can't do it half-assed. I've already managed to clear A1S but it took a different way of thinking. Not sure if that's a good thing right now though.
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  4. #54
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    YuiSasaki's Avatar
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Parawill View Post
    General consensus for crit is that it is generally just overheal, but I stack it anyways because when my DPS spells crit I have the nastiest grin on my face. It's not necessarily bad, it's just not as "stable" in comparison to DET/SS. DET < SS though... I'm not quite sure. Maybe it's because we can reach high levels of SS over the 520'ish or whatever it is when it comes to DET.
    I know of that consensus, yet I wonder, how much spell cast reduction will you reach with 863 SS (approx. maxxed out ss if you go full SS with i210 and w/o foodbuff). And tbh I highly doubt, that it will affect HoTs - especially on AST - that much, that it would be the go-to secondary.

    Has any1 stacked SS and can provide some numbers (SS, DTR, Crit, MND)?
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  5. #55
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    SovereignAegis's Avatar
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    Cole Evyx
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Akava View Post
    I've decided to dive head first into Astro for Savage. I've already spent Eso on Ast gear to ensure I keep up with my group in power level. I figure that if I really want to show Yoshi and his team that Ast needs help, I can't do it half-assed. I've already managed to clear A1S but it took a different way of thinking. Not sure if that's a good thing right now though.
    I admire your dedication and support you fully.

    You go and kick ass! I want AST to be proven to be viable, I want to enjoy ALL THREE healers.
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  6. #56
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    STARSBarry's Avatar
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    Avalon Planewalker
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    I ended buying the weapon, my thoughts are this. My other class for Healing is the SCH but the AF3 gear is garbage no crit at all the Hive weapon and a fair few prototype pieces have alot more of it so keeping those and getting more crit seems like a good idea, I dont have a white mage so the logical conclusion is to help buff my AST with as much ilevel as I can, this means the content becomes easier and I still have a good healing class with decent gear for its build to fall back onto if I find content too hard, but at least I will have AST as its best to give it a damn good try.
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    EU servers are coming when Square?

  7. #57
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    In a moment of weakness, I bought it. >w>
    I use to main SCH, so I miss the Critical Hit. D;
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  8. #58
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    Benedictrine's Avatar
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    Winnie Bear
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 60
    @Staris
    Piety will only ever be good if you're doing hard progression, it's not end game BiS. For now, with savage, yeah, sure. I also didn't make my statement as an AST main, if you'll note "if it's the same case...". Two weapon damage will not outweigh all of the stats (defense fromc hestpiece, even) you'd get from other pieces of gear unless two weapon dmg=upwards of 50-80 MND. I guess I should've said THE weapon damage, and not weapon damage as a general statement. It makes a difference for DPS classes because the outgoing velocity of.. well, DPS is a lot higher than your heals(HPS, I guess? This is a stupid term considering variables). I'd rather lose that 2 weapon dmg as sch and keep my hive stats vs that garbage combination. I don't need more PIE as a sch.

    @leloni ".. unless you have access to a4 upgrade item."
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  9. #59
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    Fufupel's Avatar
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    Kiui Malaguld
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Bought the Robe first because I don't want to do T4 for the next 4 weeks for a terrible robe. Probably going to get the Hat next not sure, not a big fan of the Eso Weapon stats.
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  10. #60
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    Zentsa's Avatar
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    Runa Kawasaki
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    I boght the Robe first too, next is the weapon <3
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