Yoshi P / Dev Team: FAVOR System - Please Fix This BROKEN System

[javid]

As players (casual and hardcore) we want the game to be fun. However producers need to come up with a way to make that "fun" we're having last (keep their subscriptions up).

So we can guess, however the fix is gonna be it wouldn't be to their best interest to make favor timers SHORTER.

Also they are currently sticking to their initial game plan around specialist (crafter & gatherer); they consistently want to move away from self-sustaining few players that can run the market. So either you guys have to keep complaining until they abandon this path or face that they won't make it easy for one person to gather all the mats that person needs then turn around and craft it all.

(after you've spent 3 hours gathering then attempt to craft and have that syn be botched (either fails or return's nq)......you won't want to spend another 3 hours....you'll much rather spend 3-10mil gil for the next attempt!! [note: speaking from personal experience. lost 3 astral lumbers astral oil & 2 birch lumbers] )

I for one will appreciate more having to focus on one task predominantly instead of having to do it all.

[chrillix]

As players (casual and hardcore) we want the game to be fun. However producers need to come up with a way to make that "fun" we're having last (keep their subscriptions up).

So we can guess, however the fix is gonna be it wouldn't be to their best interest to make favor timers SHORTER.

Huh? If they wanted it to be fun, then I would think they would want us to spend less time mindlessly running from node to node which would actually mean a shorter duration on favors.

Also they are currently sticking to their initial game plan around specialist (crafter & gatherer); they consistently want to move away from self-sustaining few players that can run the market.

Where did they say this? The specialization system was designed to allow players to only have a single or few crafting jobs leveled in order to make certain items (not require cross-abilities from every single craft). They even acknowledged that this would do nothing to stop omnicrafters, and that they didn't have a problem with it.

[Nomad-phx]

just add an effect that gives x stacks of "lay of the land III" when you activate a favore, each "lay of the land III" stack would grant a 100% concealed spawn after hitting a regular node. beyond the x amount of guaranteed comcealed spawn pops it goes off straight RNG. 3-5 guaranteed nodes per favor should qwell all the Qs.

[Galactimus]

For the past three weeks I have used up all 45 favors and have found that I get about 3 Concealed Nodes per Favor on average. I've noticed that I'm slowly accumulating far more Concealed Node items then I can hand-in each week using red Crafting Tokens. We have a maximum of 9 Crafting Tokens; it takes 1 Token to get 5 NQ Purified Coke and 3(!!) Tokens to get HQ Purified Coke.


I'm ending up with far more Concealed Node items than I can possibly hand-in with 9 Crafting Tokens. I mean our Red Scrips -just- reset and I've already used up my 9 Crafting Tokens with 38 Favors still remaining. Every week my stock pile of gathered items grows larger. I have 12 Dragon Warts and 12 Red Rounstones that I'll never be able to hand in since they take 3/9 Crafting Tokens each. By next Thursday I'll be two FULL weeks ahead of what my Crafting Scrips can handle.


Now, it already takes 11 hours(!!) to use up your 45 Gathering Favors. That's a brutal amount of time and I don't see how increasing the Favors duration is going to improve that situation. Furthermore, if the number of Concealed Nodes we get per favor is increased I'd ask that the number of red Crafting Tokens we can get each week be increased as well. 12 Red Crafting Tokens would be a far greater balance for our current system; 16 if you decide to increase our Concealed Nodes. Otherwise, the Crafting Token "HQ hand-in cost" needs to be lowered from 3 to 2 (or even 1) to make the trade even remotely worthwhile.


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(!!) - Indicates the amount seriously needs to be reduced!!

[Alysrea]

I think the biggest problem for me is that We are buying favors in trade of getting gear, If crafters could make the gathering gear it wouldn't seem as bad to me to spend all of my tokens on favors to get materials even if the drop rate was low, but as it stand currently pre-change the value of what I get from doing favors isn't worth it.
So my hope is the change will allow me to do a bit of both have a few favors carry me through getting materials but not completely miss out on getting my AF for gathering.

[kenventa]

I want to get excited but somehow i don't want to raise my expectations, it may make me quit the game if the adjustment is not enough or if they wait too long to patch this up.

Its been more than 2 weeks SE, how much more time and forum rants do you need to identify and solve the problem. You dont need a scientist/mathematical/statistician/actuary/analyst to do this. People in the forum had shared their ideas for a solution. Not saying all of them are correct but some of them are.

[JillyBean]

I don't really know much about it since I haven't delved past capping Red Scrips. I don't know what to do with them so just been stacking envelopes. Haven't looked into it very far.

My concern from reading all the posts is even if they "fix" it however everyone wants it, will it even be fun? :/

I love(d) crafting/gathering. Will I love it again even after a fix? Or will it lose me until another major update? Or is it ruined forever? This makes me sad.

[Nomad-phx]

wouldnt it be pointless to even have a favor system if the concealed spawn rate was 100%? might as well just have the option to buy ooids and such with tokens at that point.

[Thrustie]

I used one set of my HQ favor mats this week because I was one mat short of making another piece and out of gathering tokens. Plus I had 5 leftover crafting tokens from the last few weeks. So they're not totally worthless. It did make HQing the mat exceedingly easy.

[seorin]

Nobody is saying they're worthless, though? The suggestion is they should cost fewer tokens to acquire, making them more affordable for the people who need them. They already require roundstones instead of ooids, why make them cost more red scrip tokens too? This extra cost devalues roundstones because anyone who can HQ at least 33% of the time is better off buying NQ and selling the failures; they'll save on scrip and make extra gil besides.