Yoshi P / Dev Team: FAVOR System - Please Fix This BROKEN System

[Ranzan]

post above.

I can only speak for my server but this in the quote is not the case. GC seal items sell under 500 gil
, same with Cordials. My DoW/M only friends are losing money cause their main source of gil was taken away from them. Those GC items are not worth it in thier eyes. All they would cover is teles and repairs. So from my experience SE did in fact shut out a demographic of the player base from the crafting grind.

After looking at Sibyll recent post it make sense why the mats are still so high (150k) because less people are a part of the crafting economy.

[Sibyll]

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In the rest of my post, that you selectively ignored, I explained that DoW/DoM in 2.x kept end-game crafting material prices low by providing a steady supply. In 3.x DoW/DoM are not involved in the acquisition of end-game crafting materials causing the supply to be provided almost entirely by the same people that would be using the materials for themselves.

The Favor system fails because it requires a level 60 DoL, a non-trivial gear requirement, and Red Scrip capping, which alienates a large portion of the player base and bottle necks the supply.

I can't be bothered to simplify this any more for you as you haven't brought a single, intelligent rebuttal to the discussion. I'll quit feeding the troll.

[Mature]

Last night I finally tested this fix. I got 22 red ooids and 2 red round things out of 5 favors.

This is the same amount I got before fix but quicker.

[Alysrea]

Last night I finally tested this fix. I got 22 red ooids and 2 red round things out of 5 favors.

This is the same amount I got before fix but quicker.

Thank you for sharing your information but a sample size of 1 is not statistically relevant, after you have done more groupings of favors please come back and share with us and let us know if your averages still hold to be true.

[Mature]

Just to highlight that imo red scrip gear and crafted with red scrip gear should be separated. Because you can't have both . You either collected or crafted. You do have a choice here and I understand BUT there aren't secondary tool or accessories to exchange for red scrips. This is my issue. In order to make it you have to sacrifice a week worth of scrips meaning a week of lost red scrip gear (or maybe 2 weeks)

Maybe using blue scrips to make ilvl170 stuff rather than using the red ones.

Just a thought

[seorin]

Maybe using blue scrips to make ilvl170 stuff rather than using the red ones.

I mentioned this earlier and still think it's one of the best solutions.

It's unfair that gatherers have to delay their progression just to farm mats. That guarantees somebody will get the short end of the stick: those selling mats or those buying gear. When new items require 180 gear to gather, players who sold their favor mats will be be stuck weeks behind those who didn't. Fixes (catch up gear, scrip cap increase, etc) would instead screw over people buying 180 gear, because they could be selling favor mats right now and then quickly catch up later.

This only gets worse as more time passes because players are able to invest more deeply into the 'wrong' choice, which is the main reason I'd like to see fixes sooner rather than later. A timely fix is the only way to minimize how badly the players get burned.

[Nadirah]

I can only speak for my server but this in the quote is not the case. GC seal items sell under 500 gil
, same with Cordials. My DoW/M only friends are losing money cause their main source of gil was taken away from them. Those GC items are not worth it in thier eyes. All they would cover is teles and repairs. So from my experience SE did in fact shut out a demographic of the player base from the crafting grind.

After looking at Sibyll recent post it make sense why the mats are still so high (150k) because less people are a part of the crafting economy.

The hell are they buying? I make loads of gil from selling coke and stuff my hunting ventures bring back(it depend per day what sells, chimera manes, various skins and deepeye years always move).

[Ranzan]

The hell are they buying? I make loads of gil from selling coke and stuff my hunting ventures bring back(it depend per day what sells, chimera manes, various skins and deepeye years always move).

Idk what's going on here but GC items just sit here and the main venture items sell pretty low. It's like nobody is interested in gathering or airship on this server. Luling armor is still a boon thou. It's like alot of people don't craft anymore but just gather to sell favors for too much. It's depressing cause I'm not uber rich to drop 3 mil on the MB to make 1 RCS item...

[Mature]

Thank you for sharing your information but a sample size of 1 is not statistically relevant, after you have done more groupings of favors please come back and share with us and let us know if your averages still hold to be true.

2nd set :
19 red ooids
5 red rounds
3rd set :
20 red ooids
1 red rounds

[Sartori]

This system is still pretty much broke, a big waste of time....