FC Chest just gets raded, and GMs can do nothing.

[DarkDedede]

Hi all,

So a new member was just invited to join our FC (not by me). As soon as they joined, they immediately raided the FC chest and left. They stole some furniture, airship materials, and three airship parts (all the expensive stuff). After the crime was reported, the GM says that that they do not have any power to do anything about stealing, and suggests I post feedback on the forums. Here I am.

Now I'm not going to cry over what was stolen, as the theif really can't sell used airship parts. Here's what I don't understand. These GMs have the power to discipline people for trolling raids, and people using vulgar language (basically general annoyances). However, when it comes to the blatant act of stealing, and actively preying on players that are probably a little to trusting, they can do nothing? That's where I am cry foul.

Considering the fact that FC crafting had just been introduced to the game, I'd imagine more valuable materials will be stored in the FC chest. This means that the thieves may find this type of activity a bit more appealing, especially since it's apparently allowed in the game. I certainly hope that SE decides to add some additonal security QoL features to the chest, as well as give the GMs a bit more power to discipline these types of thieves. Otherwise, I am extremely disappointed in how this issue is being handled.

[SecretCrowds]

Why did you not limit access to the tab with the airship parts so it can be accessed only by the fc crafters?

[Culfinrandir]

Never, ever, ever give chest access to new joiners. There's a fault with the system in that unless you change the default all new members has access. Now you know that it should be changed and access privileges only given after a trial period.

[ServerCollaps]

I guess its your own fault to give every stranger 100% access to your belongings...

[xanmoas]

Shame about that, you should limit the fc chest access and remove it for the newest members to avoid robbery like this. only give them rights after they earn it otherwise this stuff will keep happening.
My fc just keeps putting junk into my chest and i hope one day someone will take it all out.

[PotatoWafflez]

The fact that you seemingly have full Bank access on your default rank when inviting someone to your FC is probably the bigger issue here.
You might want to go through all your ranks and permissions and sort those out.
Seems like a oversight on the FC leader's part.

[Nadirah]

Yeah, you don't want to put expensive things in a tab accessible by everyone.

What I'd *like* to see, is the ability to lock out tabs to people that don't have security tokens on their accounts. WoW has this. Six of my 7 guild bank tabs can't be touched by anyone without one. You can't even be promoted past "member" without one on the account either. And best part about their system, is that if you take it off, it automatically demotes you to the first rank that doesn't require one.

nothing like having to have a GM log my character in and having me automatically demoted from my officer position(I'm GM, my alts are officer ranked) because when they log you in, they bypass all of the security directly(they don't need a password to log you in btw) since they bypassed it, it looks like the authenticator was removed. This also triggers the 72 hour wait before I could be promoted again. >< Lol

[ElHeggunte]

I certainly hope that SE decides to add some additonal security QoL features to the chest, as well as give the GMs a bit more power to discipline these types of thieves. Otherwise, I am extremely disappointed in how this issue is being handled.

Seriously? What's SE supposed to do? It's up to the FC leader to keep better control over member premissions. All the security in the world wouldn't help if you hand the thief the keys to the safe.

[xanmoas]

Same with gil, in fact unless you can trust people, NEVER give players access to the Gil unless their trusted and sometimes not even then.
I have votes of what to do with fc gil to prevent people from stealing it.

[DarkDedede]

Just a few points of clarification. I am not the FC leader, so I can't control the FC Chest settings. The FC chest was limited to only officers, last I was aware, but it was apparently changed without my knowledge. I am the FC member that manages the workshop and airships, so the stuff that was stolen were the things I was working on.

The issue isn't that things were stolen. Besides the airship parts (which were bronco class, and used), they really didn't make of with much that can't be made back easily (and a Kidragora). The issue is that the GM can do absolutely nothing. For all I know this individual could have done this multiple times today, and it's apparently allowed.

The reply did tell me to leave feedback on the forums, so I'd imagine this is an issue they'd like to have rectified as well.