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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    No matter what I do to prove
    Prove
    1. to test the truth, validity, or genuineness of
    2. to test the worth or quality of; specifically : to compare against a standard
    3. to check the correctness of (as an arithmetic result)
    4. to establish the existence, truth, or validity of (as by evidence or logic)

    You have not demonstrated any truth, validity, logic, correctness, existence of truth, etc.

    A statement, claim, number, idea without any logic or proof backing it up us not existence of proving something and thus you only make yourself look worse than you claim to be.
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    Gideon Highmourn
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Prove
    1. to test the truth, validity, or genuineness of
    2. to test the worth or quality of; specifically : to compare against a standard
    3. to check the correctness of (as an arithmetic result)
    4. to establish the existence, truth, or validity of (as by evidence or logic)

    You have not demonstrated any truth, validity, logic, correctness, existence of truth, etc.

    A statement, claim, number, idea without any logic or proof backing it up us not existence of proving something and thus you only make yourself look worse than you claim to be.
    Essentially this. You have done nothing to prove what you claim and that's why people "pick apart" what you post, because most of it is filled with whimsical numbers that cannot possibly be achieved. Until you can actually prove what you're claiming, please refrain from posting misinformation as you continue to do when trying to "prove" what cards are capable or when comparing the healing potency or WHM vs AST.

    It doesn't take "being good at math" to determine most of what you've claimed is patently false. Even with napkin math, at no point will cards add over 100DPS to an encounter unless that encounter is only 15 seconds long.

    It doesn't take exhaustive testing to determine that AST isn't a better (or even equal, as you're claiming) healer than WHM, either. Just by comparing potency and CDs, it's easily determined that WHM is far better at both single-target healing and AoE healing.

    You're credibility is nil at this point; the more you make wild claims like these, the less likely people are going to pay attention to anything you say. White knighting for a class does absolutely nothing for you or the class itself. As evidenced by many AST's, parses, and "napkin math", it's performance is lagging behind that of WHM/SCH.

    The point of discussions like this isn't to demean AST or anyone playing it, but rather to provide feedback (as asked by SE) on the class in order to bring it's performance to a more competitive level. You seem to look at this as more of a personal attack, which it's not, and are completely unable to look at the subject objectively because of it.

    Basically ... If you're going to make wild claims (cards adding 400 DPS, AST healing equal with WHM), be able to prove them. Otherwise, refrain from doing so or risk being called out on it as it is misinformation.
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    Last edited by GideonHighmourn; 08-03-2015 at 01:23 AM.