Things I'm starting to hate on AST

[DarkmoonVael]

Lol 800 from a scholar on anything is the real laugh. Ban e maybe but not single target.

Oh lol, well we now know you cant get anywhere near those numbers...... Thankfully there is now a parse in this thread proving me right. So what i claim is provable, but what you are saying, as per usual, is pulled from the nether-regions and has no veracity behind it.

Perhaps you should think on how good people have to be on a class to get those numbers. And then we shall think on your claim that you get 150dps on sch in the same encounter, and balance the probabilty in skill level between you and i on sch.

http://imgur.com/CIiffbS

Again, please stop spreading misinformation. This is with just a CNJ in party. With Foe's/Trick Attack/etc, our numbers go even higher on single target. SCH is fully capable of outputting high single target damage.

Thanks for posting this here. Time to disprove Vlady et al with actual evidence, not random number pulled from the nether-regions. .

I am sorry but show us a parse in actual raid environment where I think he is implying. That is practically in the same scenario as the 50 pages of people wanting a warrior nerfed because one did a 15k crit a while back.

Please notice that i specified that the 800 dps if from the faust fight only. Therefor your reading comprehension maybe needs some work. The expected dps of a SCH in a raid environment was seperated in my post, with faust and the subsequent fight being seperated. Please learn to comprehand what is being talked about rather doing this obtuse, flippant response. We are talking about possible SCH DPS obtained in faust normal by people who are highly skilled at this job. It make Vladys claim of 150 dps an absolute joke, and leads way to question his skill on this class, especially with his egregious clamin on SCH vs AST.

Except accuracy, stopping to go in and out of cleric stance to swap between eos and selene when the speed buff is used up. Easily missing faust from lack of gear vs a level 1 dummy that does not have any innate resistance or damage reduction.

Accuracy is absolutely not an issue in faust normal, i miss once or twice in the encounter. The SCH does no healing in this encounter. In a 2-2.5 min fight, fey wind is up for 1-1.5 min. This math is not difficult to do.

Also all of this is explained in my post. Did you actually read it?

Lol. I am doing about 500 dps against a level 1 dummy even without dots right now. You cannot compare a raid level target to a level 1 training dummy.

Well it must be skill that makes up that last 300 dps then if you cant get it and others can. Proof has been posted in this thread about the specifics i have talked about. Once again, you can not prove a single thing you claim. Change the record.

The reason the current healing meta is what it currently is because some groups are sticking to the quota. Astrologian puts out basically as much as a white mage without the cooldowns so to say that the astro cannot output enough healing to cover the scholar additional dps is not entirely true. They provide their utility around card buffs which are quite strong in the hands of a skilled player who can coordinate with other people. And from my own personal parse against a (lol dummy) I was easily pushing 800 dps as well. Nocturnal actually provides stronger single target heals potency wise then white mage is capable of and as a few pages down the math between sect stance and noc efficiency wise are the same unless I am mistaken so people who say that noc is in a bath situation right now need to do more then give it a small try.

Faust is not an aoe heavy fight minus his cleave and synastry easily covers the damage buff from 4-5 to let an astro solo heal as well as a white mage as long as he is not cleaving everyone. And the parse was from the mist ward but since I do not know if you can place higher level dummies in your house or not so I cannot say.

Its amazing how in one thread, you have gone from 150DPS, to 500DPS to 800DPS. Claims are not believable Vlady, unless you have suddenly figured how well the skilled healers are doing and learned from them?

Until you actually get out there and do the parses then you will see instead of magically downloading the power of astro buffs. You can computate the range off p possible cards being pulled but when dozens of parses over the course of a month adds the average of buffing my family in dungeons it shows a different light.

Hang on. So what you are saying is you want parsers to magicaly prove you right when it comes to card, yet when someone show evidence of the power of SCH DPS, it cant be counted?

SCH DPS is far higher than you claim it is and has been proven to be, albeit in once very specific case, but one in which you decided to argue against.

Sigh

completely and utterly ignorant

I go for this one in regards to the person you are talking about .

by luck I'm on Balmung so hit me up because I just do not see how even combined they can make up for the lost DPS I provide, let alone the mitigation, healing and buffs I can provide coupled with a WHM. Truly, I would LOVE to speak with them.

I have been waiting a long long long time for someone to take up his offer like this . Can you do us all a favour and keep us updated on this proposal and how it goes when you are introduced to Balmung cutting edge progression raid groups who are running AST permanently in their raid groups, and especially the ones who are running 2 x AST .

[Ritsugamesh]

I have been waiting a long long long time for someone to take up his offer like this . Can you do us all a favour and keep us updated on this proposal and how it goes when you are introduced to Balmung cutting edge progression raid groups who are running AST permanently in their raid groups, and especially the ones who are running 2 x AST .

Little late, hardly frequent the forums, but I did actually manage to get some info out of the whole thing. Turns out it was his own Savage group and they hadn't cleared AS1 as of end of last week. Unfortunately didn't get the chance to enjoy a conversation directly with the fellow, he was afk on the forums I think at the time. Go figure!

[DarkmoonVael]

Little late, hardly frequent the forums, but I did actually manage to get some info out of the whole thing. Turns out it was his own Savage group and they hadn't cleared AS1 as of end of last week. Unfortunately didn't get the chance to enjoy a conversation directly with the fellow, he was afk on the forums I think at the time. Go figure!

Well thanks for coming back with this info, kind of figured he was referring to his own group. . Another Vlady claim blown out of the water it seems .