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    VanEinstein's Avatar
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    Fahna Eldaeron
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    The reason the current healing meta is what it currently is because some groups are sticking to the quota. Astrologian puts out basically as much as a white mage without the cooldowns so to say that the astro cannot output enough healing to cover the scholar additional dps is not entirely true. They provide their utility around card buffs which are quite strong in the hands of a skilled player who can coordinate with other people. And from my own personal parse against a (lol dummy) I was easily pushing 800 dps as well.
    It's true that some players would prefer to stick to the quota as you say, and that *will* occasionally come about because some players would rather follow someone else's lead than formulate their own method. However, that does not mean that you can claim this to be the case for everyone. There is a solid reasoning behind the meta, and it works.


    No matter how much you claim to put out as much healing as a White Mage, you simply aren't capable of it. Yes, your potencies aren't far off, but as an AST you have no means by which to push your healing forward in times of need or to take additional weight off your SCH partner. Divine Seal being available every 60 seconds atop the already higher base potencies is not something to sneeze at. While Asylum may not be the most potent of abilities, it is still providing additional healing at crucial moments that AST simply has no method of producing. Similarly, Assize is no joke (unless you enjoy calling it by another name, as I do). It's additional instant healing, at no cost.
    I don't even need to go into your own dps, because you'd need to come out of Cleric stance far more frequently than a SCH paired with a WHM would. A scholar can only maintain Cleric stance for so long because of the presence of that fairy coupled with the top-tier healing capability of the WHM. You're also ignoring the fact that RNG is unreliable. You may enter Savage one of these times and find that you only ever pull the same two far from ideal cards repeatedly. Hell, I have. In such cases Astrologians support becomes a terrible joke. If you're coming up roses all the time on your draws, then I envy your good fortune.
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    Spoekes Magica
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Did you ever realise that someones numbers in a given fight will change from try to try?

    Mechanics, perfomance etc. is what you see in your parser differences.
    This has a tenfold bigger impact on DPS.

    You might give balance to one particular DPS in a fight, but depending on mechnics he leaves with less DPS than the try before where you didn't buff them.
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    Cole Evyx
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    Did you ever realise that someones numbers in a given fight will change from try to try?

    Mechanics, perfomance etc. is what you see in your parser differences.
    This has a tenfold bigger impact on DPS.

    You might give balance to one particular DPS in a fight, but depending on mechnics he leaves with less DPS than the try before where you didn't buff them.

    The issue is with this statement you're implying an AST can actually pre-prepare for mechanics in advance and choose when and where to use their mechanics. Unfortunately cards are completely random so no amount of mechanical ingenuity can help an AST if they don't get lucky.

    Like yeah you can walk in knowing you'll have the balance on spread but that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    The issue is with this statement you're implying an AST can actually pre-prepare for mechanics in advance and choose when and where to use their mechanics. Unfortunately cards are completely random so no amount of mechanical ingenuity can help an AST if they don't get lucky.

    Like yeah you can walk in knowing you'll have the balance on spread but that's it.
    Where do I imply that? I read again I can't see where you get that from, its not what I mean.

    I was just saying the differences in his parser are effected by more than his cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    Where do I imply that? I read again I can't see where you get that from, its not what I mean.

    I was just saying the differences in his parser are effected by more than his cards.
    Ah my bad, I thought you were meaning an AST's mechanic's will vary from fight to fight.
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