Things I'm starting to hate on AST

[Yurimi]

I love astro and I really want it to work really I do... I have done a lot of content on it ranging from dungeons exprimals and alexander normal. I have solo healed A1-A3 I have solo healed ravana and bismark ex and the second I step into savage you can tell its just not going to work that great. I was replacing a whm here and there for my friends static and here are some facts.



-Their whm was able to solo heal faust up to 6 stacks we had to drop off at 4 with me there.
-Their WHM offered better group healing on the split party using Asylum while I could only offer a second supporting heal on a single target using synestry which each healer was already taking a tank so that wasnt nearly as helpful
-During jumps I could offer healer bubble or helios the whm could just cure 3 for more
-Tank busters I could Essential Dignity then try to heal through it with other stuff while the whm could tetra for about the same amount
-Prey... I had nothing for this I could only use my aspected benefic and the SCH had to cover using adlo and lustrates whm would divine seal and regen and a medica 2 cast would keep them up until the next top up before jump

I had cards but no card is going to replace the sch losing 2/3's of their dps to help heal more nor will my cards suddenly increase my healing efficiency or output during heal heavy stages (gunpod -> prey -> tank buster) where the sch would already be taxed trying to keep up healing with a more efficient healer.

I love this job and I want to play as it but its just not as good at this time as its alternatives, can it be used... yes, with great difficulty less efficiency and overall more stress on the whole group to cover for having it so why bring it.

[Yhisa]

-Tank busters I could Essential Dignity then try to heal through it with other stuff while the whm could tetra for about the same amount

Hmm so u saying that a WHM can get a 11K + heal if u crit D: ?????? (my own record)

[Yhisa]

i really really really wish players stop comparing use to WHM and SCH..... ... and buff us through our cards...... i dont want to have cooldowns like WHM or SCH..... if i wanted that i go and play them........AST is a active healer which provide support through cards.... ever thought that ast is not ment to do dps but potentially ment to set up cards instead to boost party members to make up for ur own damage xD???? the problem is that SE need to buff us through our card system and mechanics..... and stay 100 yard away from what a SCH and WHM can do.... our identity it self is literally the cards....I dont want Regen or Shields.... All i wanted to do with this job is slap people with my cards and heal / buff them depending on the situation

[Eudyptes]

Hmm so u saying that a WHM can get a 11K + heal if u crit D: ?????? (my own record)

It wont do as much as ED can, but it's close. Tetra is a 700 pot heal while ED is 400-1000 (depending on HP).

As for your other post, I would also like to see most of AST's buffs make them different than SCH/WHM. However, at this point I think it would require some massive class reworking for that to happen. I think the easiest solution for the fixes the class needs will likely come through CDs.

Tbh, I kinda wish SE would take AST back to the drawing board and start over from scratch. Keep the "time mage" idea and preferably the cards, but nix the hybrid idea.

[Yhisa]

It wont do as much as ED can, but it's close. Tetra is a 700 pot heal while ED is 400-1000 (depending on HP).

As for your other post, I would also like to see most of AST's buffs make them different than SCH/WHM. However, at this point I think it would require some massive class reworking for that to happen. I think the easiest solution for the fixes the class needs will likely come through CDs.

Tbh, I kinda wish SE would take AST back to the drawing board and start over from scratch. Keep the "time mage" idea and preferably the cards, but nix the hybrid idea.

finally someone agree with me <3 i do love this class alot but i dont like the WHM and SCH vibe i get depending on what sect i am in..... to me i think AST was rushed .. it was like they had this grand idea of having a job to provide buffs but ran out of ideas half way so they slapped mimic spells from WHM and SCH to fill in our gaps and claim that they got a new healer to build hype....... all i wanted to do was throw and slap people with my cards and heal them buff then in unique ways

[VanEinstein]

As for your other post, I would also like to see most of AST's buffs make them different than SCH/WHM. However, at this point I think it would require some massive class reworking for that to happen. I think the easiest solution for the fixes the class needs will likely come through CDs.

Tbh, I kinda wish SE would take AST back to the drawing board and start over from scratch. Keep the "time mage" idea and preferably the cards, but nix the hybrid idea.

The author of this reddit post would seem to agree with you, as do I. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ed_from_party/


An excerpt from the end, if you'd rather not read it all:

"Regarding the changes SE should make to AST, I cannot say. I am not a game designer, and know very little about balance. I simply believe that if an AST is supposed to fill both roles, they will never do either as optimally. AST’s need their own identity as a healer. SE should work AST into it’s own niche, and make us reconsider the current meta entirely. Things would become even more interesting for White Mages and Scholars everywhere if their play style changed based on the job of their co-healer."

It should be noted that choosing not to give AST it's own niche was a dangerous decision. If they are unwilling to turn the meta on its head, that just potentially makes more work for them later if/when they choose to add a fourth healing job to the roster, in which case they have only postponed the inevitable.