Things I'm starting to hate on AST

[TatoRazzino]

With one draw of The Arrow and one Time Dilation, the 10% buff will stay for 30s, which is more than 3x what Selene can do to one player. Since not all jobs benefit from Selene equally (parse some DPS and see what Selene does to each of them) and since the deck has more than just attack speed going on, AST can outperform the fairy easily in the DPS increase aspect. Obviously, it's not going to add insane dps like some people are suggesting (seeing ASTs arguing that it would make DPS go over 400 is ridiculous) and I didn't say that ASTs can pull the same individual DPS than a SCH can; however, saying that SCH buffs the party better is just dumb. It's not even an issue of not knowing both jobs, it's just about sucking at math.

[Yurimi]

@TatoRazzino Now I can agree somewhat with this post but here are some things to remember, you are compairing single target Arrow to AoE Selene and while you can argue in some groups positionally it would be harder to apply this buff to multiples but lets use what I have experience with... A1 Savage. Timing it is actually done at set points (for the group I was participating with) in order to maximize its target hits (just after drops for example where the entire party is stacked or during the opening of adds when you bait the resin bombs before the lasers).


As far as burning up a jobs TP (NIN and MNK) this can be countered by using a spire and the arrow can actually heavily benefit the DRG in some cases where they have to interupt a rotation due to mechanics and cutting Blood of the Dragon close it can make or break their dps for a good chunk. I believe all cards do have their uses (Spear for example allowing greater oGCD on jobs heavy with them such as MCH NIN DRG or even tanks with defensive CD's) I will not argue that it has a varying use. HOWEVER its use does not stack up to its randomness of buffs where you draw spire at the start and already have an ERR from the ewer you got from the last draw or getting spear at the end of a fight when there is no need to reduce those... drawing a bole or spear just before a tank buster is satisfying but getting a spire before first jump is pretty mucha throw away. Its utility is not going to make up for its shortcomings and its HPS and effective heals require more support from your off healer which will slow the dps down from them.

The job can do content and it can clear content noone can argue that, the issue is with what it brings to the table other jobs can clear content better and easier with less risk. If people love the job thats great play it enjoy it just dont be upset when you are not included or asked to participate because a group doesnt want to take those risks. Dont complain that others feel the job is lacking because in a lot of cases its not the player its the job itself that is flawed and in need of adjustments in order to be competative.

[Eudyptes]

Another issue, or rather the bigger issue, is that AST buffs are inconsistent. Hitting all 8 people with Selene's haste will be slightly weaker vs hitting all 8 people with an expanded arrow (which is stronger than hitting one person with a full buff), however it quickly diminishes its effectiveness the moment the AST stops getting perfect draws every turn. Any time they get a card that doesn't RR into expanded on one turn, and then anything that isn't arrow/balance the next, it starts to fall behind Fey Wind since Selene can cast it every 60 sec no matter what. What's more, is SCH can also drop sacred soil every 30 sec for 15 sec to get the same effect as bole.

All things considered, card buffs just aren't very good. They aren't really any more powerful than most other group buffs in the game, yet seem to have a heavy cost attached to them cause raisins.

[DreamWeaver]

Things I'm starting to hate on AST:
1) ASTs who MUST MAKE NEW THREAD COZ MY IDEA/OPINION IS SPECIALZZZZZZ
2) How the healer section is infested with above threads.

[Vlady]

Things I'm starting to hate on AST:
1) ASTs who MUST MAKE NEW THREAD COZ MY IDEA/OPINION IS SPECIALZZZZZZ
2) How the healer section is infested with above threads.

The most true post I have seen since the job came out over a month ago. If the threads would not rehash everything even if I do not agree with how weak some people make it out to be I would not have to rehash my defending the job nightly.

[Eudyptes]

The most true post I have seen since the job came out over a month ago. If the threads would not rehash everything even if I do not agree with how weak some people make it out to be I would not have to rehash my defending the job nightly.

I have all 3 healer classes at 60. AST really is that weak when compared to them. It can do content sure, but it's still in need of some serious help. Go level the other two healers yourself and you'll understand.

[VanEinstein]

DreamWeaver, Vlady, cry me a river why don't you? No one is twisting your arm to read these. You have free will. The next time you look at one of these threads, just don't click on it. Problem solved. Every time you post you add fuel to the fire you so desperately want to put out.

[Ayer2015]

I have all 3 healer classes at 60. AST really is that weak when compared to them. It can do content sure, but it's still in need of some serious help. Go level the other two healers yourself and you'll understand.

I have all healers at 60 as well, and have had zero issues healing on AST including the EX primals so far. That said, I have no interest in Alex Salvage given what it yields.

That said, it could use a few adjustments still, but hardly warrants all the forum complaint threads.

[Lorielle]

I have all healers at 60 as well, and have had zero issues healing on AST including the EX primals so far. That said, I have no interest in Alex Salvage given what it yields.

That said, it could use a few adjustments still, but hardly warrants all the forum complaint threads.

The bold is where most of the complaints are derived from. So, of course, you're not really going to see it in that light. There's understanding it from the outsider perspective and then understanding from the insider's perspective. Progression is where AST falls short.

[Vlady]

Oh don't worry your astro sux tears sustain me nightly.that is how silly these whine threads have divulged.I'm already aware people will enjoy taking parts of my posts out of context.