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Thread: The 4th Tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    Just.As.Well.
    You forget that if they included a NIN then the benefit is now gone. Likewise if they didn't include a scholar they would have suffered too. Its a party based games, some classes will bring things that help the others. Having this dynamic is a good thing and allows for creative party building.
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    I think Viking is just too similar aesthetically to warrior to be that interesting.

    No thank you to gunblade and magitech cannon - I'd rather see classic jobs.

    My pick would be a DoM Red Mage tank - some self-heal utility, enspells, spikes, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Beastmaster. Dual wields axes a la ffxi, instead of having a pet per se, cool down animations for mitigation in the form of pets. Example: a 30% damage reduction like Vengeance, but you summon a mini adamantoise that takes 30% of all incoming damage for 20 secs or 15k damage total. Or summon an ant lion that increases your slashing damage by 10% and deals dot damage potency of 40 for 40secs. Have an Mch like overdrive ability in later levels, the possibilities are pretty cool.
    Ewww. Why does everyone want these Dissidia Yuna versions of pet classes. Gross.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 08-02-2015 at 11:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
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    If the enrage timer is met, no body gives a flying rat's tail. They met it with a far from "optimal" setup in their DPS classes. They have a MNK which does lower DPS than either NIN or DRG. They also have a BLM which does less DPS than SMN. This video proves my point that there is no class that is needed on its own.

    This party did not wipe to AoE because they do not have Storm Path. They also met the DPS check without the slashing debuff. You're the one who has their panties in a twist because you feel WAR is so "superior" and content cannot be done without them.
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    with the msq, seems like templar would be a fair choice se would introduce to the game since the story has similarities to tactics
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    So just because x class comp is able to do x instance but has a tougher time doing it, it is perfectly fine?

    By that logic, AST is fine. 2.0 WAR was fine. 3.0 BRD and MCH were fine.

    Final bit of advice phoenica, you might want to stop with the "holier-than-thou" attitude in a game where all content
    Save end-game is clearable by pugs. Shows how much "maturity" you actually have. Might also want to tone down on the ad-hominems abit.

    Forget it. It's becoming e-peen waving and echo room in the tank forums. I'm out.
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    Last edited by OPneedNerfs; 08-03-2015 at 01:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    So just because x class comp is able to do x instance but has a tougher time doing it, it is perfectly fine?

    By that logic, AST is fine. 2.0 WAR was fine. 3.0 BRD and MCH were fine.

    Final bit of advice phoenica, you might want to stop with the "holier-than-thou" attitude in a game where all content
    Save end-game is clearable by pugs. Shows how much "maturity" you actually have. Might also want to tone down on the ad-hominems abit.

    Forget it. It's becoming e-peen waving and echo room in the tank forums. I'm out.
    So you come into a topic, try to derail it with your own personal crusade, and storm out in a huff when your witch hunt blows up in your face?

    Classy.
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    A pet based tank class would be quite nice.

    I would like to see Samurai but another sword wielding tank is a bit much.

    A dancer with bladed fans actually would be a fantastic tank idea, however I do not see them wearing plate armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    I think Viking is just too similar aesthetically to warrior to be that interesting.

    No thank you to gunblade and magitech cannon - I'd rather see classic jobs.

    My pick would be a DoM Red Mage tank - some self-heal utility, enspells, spikes, etc.



    Ewww. Why does everyone want these Dissidia Yuna versions of pet classes. Gross.
    Haven't played dissidia, but I played ffxi and running around collecting a pet would not fit this game as such that a class quest to "obtain" said creature as an action ability would fit. How about post your idea like the thread states and don't bother ripping on others like a Debbie.


    Also, how cool would a bluemage tank be?
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    Also, on the topic of BST, instead of a wep throw animation for your range Aggro grab, you'd have a whip strike animation. And your stun could be Tame: 3sec stun/ 6 sec on beast type mobs
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    Imagine Samurai with actual stances: Target Eyes, Target Throat, Target Spine, Target Heart. They would actually change the way you stand and hold your weapon like classic samurai movie stances (one held over your head, one held behind you, one held in close pointing toward the enemy, and one in the sheath).

    Ex: Fast Draw: With no stance it would stun, one stance would stun and move you through the enemy, another would make it a gap closer, and another could make you jump backward after striking.
    You could change between them with no penalty (.5 sec cd), they wouldn't combine, and you'd go back to standard stance after use.

    Closer to AST than NIN, yes, but less risky since risk isn't particularly good for tanking, and full of potential for utility.

    Their actual tanking/dps stances could be holding the sword with one hand or two, or a wakizashi you'd draw into your off hand for dps.

    Mitigation would be enfeebling debuffs and damage avoidance like Shirahadori.
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