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  1. #11
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    Whocareswhatmynameis's Avatar
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    Fate Bringer
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    #1 "Why can't I have the relic for free, I have a zeta."
    #2 "OMG there's RNG. this guy got his item in 1 turn, so EVERYONE should get EVERY item in one turn"

    And people constantly moaning about it in general because it takes longer than 1 play session to obtain... Honestly I think they should leave it out. Esoteric wpn for the casuals, Gordian wpns for the hardcore. GG!
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    Last edited by Whocareswhatmynameis; 08-01-2015 at 11:40 AM.

  2. #12
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    Amiaze's Avatar
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    Genevieve Mhakaracca
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    First half of day one:

    Mr. Happy video(s) released.


    Second half of day one:

    Party finders reading "farming, know the fight!"
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  3. #13
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    Gardes's Avatar
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Funny, when esos gear were released, one of the first things that happened was people panicking that the upgrade materials being locked behind savage (and I made a post about it worrying that people will complain, and they did)
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  4. #14
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    Fireslash Oyzun
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    did the dev talk about 3.1 or something *beer*
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  5. #15
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    RyuRoots's Avatar
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    N'rhuna Veraan
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    #1 "Why can't I have the relic for free, I have a zeta."
    #2 "OMG there's RNG. this guy got his item in 1 turn, so EVERYONE should get EVERY item in one turn"

    And people constantly moaning about it in general because it takes longer than 1 play session to obtain... Honestly I think they should leave it out. Esoteric wpn for the casuals, Gordian wpns for the hardcore. GG!
    You...have never actually read posts about people complaining about RNG, I have to imagine. You only vaguely heard of the concept and then made this ridiculous strawman argument.
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  6. #16
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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Chloe Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by fireslash View Post
    did the dev talk about 3.1 or something *beer*
    So far only thing we were told was that Relic 2 will be released in 3.1 for REASONS!
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  7. 08-01-2015 12:28 PM

  8. #17
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    Alexander_Dragonfang's Avatar
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Considering it will probably need a 1 star or even 2 star craft behind red scrips... The first rant will be: "no one can even craft the thing".
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  9. #18
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    Chloe Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    #1 "Why can't I have the relic for free, I have a zeta."
    #2 "OMG there's RNG. this guy got his item in 1 turn, so EVERYONE should get EVERY item in one turn"

    And people constantly moaning about it in general because it takes longer than 1 play session to obtain... Honestly I think they should leave it out. Esoteric wpn for the casuals, Gordian wpns for the hardcore. GG!
    Going to agree on Ryu with your post.

    You must understand that the issue with RNG back in Relic 1 was not the issue people could not obtain their relic faster in 1 attempt or around 10 or less but the main issue was that a select few players could obtain their Relic items within 1 turn or around 10 attempts or less while others that have put more effort than these players would continue to not obtain their Relic Weapon despite putting ten times or more effort into their relic.

    On release of the New Relic set for Relic 1 involving RNG a few people already have obtained their New Relic within the first 3 days due to RNGod favoring them with instant or almost intant gratification with their RNG Drop while others have yet to obtain half of their drops yet due to RNGod not favoring them from both Hardcore and Casual player base.

    Plenty of Hardcore players were upset about the RNG issue as well due to how RNG being RNG can not be controlled by effort which these players put a lot of effort into but still given nothing in return while others who have put less effort and/or put less effort into the game gets their Relic due to RNGod favoring them.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 08-02-2015 at 02:23 AM.

  10. #19
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Probably 2, knowing SE's love for grinding. I don't want it to be too easy to get myself, but not too hard. 10-20 hours of work seems decent to me.
    18 books this time.
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  11. #20
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    Nabian's Avatar
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Personally I just want the reward to be worth the effort. If your going to make it top tier weapon quality then the time put into it should be equal to the time and effort it takes the average player to clear the top current end game content.

    I would rather the items be easier to get but make them more for glamour purposes than for actual stats.

    That and to hell with RNG. The light farming system was good. The drops and alex and atma can all go die
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    Last edited by Nabian; 08-02-2015 at 02:36 AM.

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